The ancient requirement which started this mess, to match the power
frequency (to reduce hum bars) is long gone.
In the future if a higher frame rate is required (for more 'realistic'
images) then 50fps.
This nightmare of cadence/23.98/30P could go away in HD.
Cheers
Chris
On 21/6/05 11:48 PM, "Timothy Duncan" <timothy.duncan(at)gmail.com> wrote:
24PA is much more efficient for software editing at the 2:3:3:2 cadence
(provided your software understands it). It takes 60% less processor power
to edit 24PA footage, and renders are at minimum, 25% faster.
But -- if you get 24PA footage that needs to get converted to import to DS,
then you can run it through Vegas, and convert it to standard 24P. I've
done several projects with 24PA keeping the 24P all the way to DVD (which
saves you about 25% space on the DVD as well). Yes -- it has a look that a
lot of producers are wanting right now... Whether it's great or not is
another whole topic. ;)
The best looking 24P and 30P footage I've seen from the sub-$6K camera range
is 1080i footage shot with the Sony Z1U and then converted to 24P and 30P in
Vegas. Sony worked especially hard in the 6.0 release on this type of
conversion. This way, you can shoot 1080i all day and have the nice footage
to start with, and if your producers wants, you can easily convert to a
super clean progressive for that "look."
As I've said before, Vegas is no replacement for DS, but it sure is the best
utility to use alongside DS as Vegas is very strong where DS is weak. (Like
file imports and exports and unbeatable audio).
td
On 6/17/05, Tom Edwards <tdcone(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
Well, like I said, the imager can have a shutter speed of 24 frames, the 3:2
pull down gives you 60i out of the camera, but since there never were 30
frames "exposed" you end up with that hip, cool, cutting edge "film look" of
a 24 frame transfer. :-P To my knowledge, there is no wa of getting the
imager's 24 frame rate out prior to the 3:2 converter.
This reminds me so much of back in the 1900's during the BIG 80's when lots
of folks were using their DVEs to freeze fields and/or frames in a similar
cadence to get that "stutter" effect. You, know if the talking head was not
interesting in 30 fps, it doesn't seem anymore interesting at less than 30
fps to me. I could be wrong....
This too will pass I hope.... :-(
Tom
Murphy, Paul wrote:
Hi Tom
Thanks for replying. Okay, pretend I'm stupid (I know that won't take much
imagination - but I'll delete some stuff so I look smarter). According to
what you wrote the camera will capture it but not play it back. So what's
the point?
Murf
Chris Schwarze
CEO/VFX Director
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Sydney - Melbourne
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Chris Schwarze
[mailto:chris.schwarze(at)completepost.com.au]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 21, =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Panasonic =
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