re: [acsr] Re: Lanshare and the Mac File count limit

Date : Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:40:32 -0600 (MDT)
To : DS(at)Softimage.COM
From : tony(at)hdheaven.co.uk
Subject : re: [acsr] Re: Lanshare and the Mac File count limit
fwiw I've been suggesting a utility for clearing up not only empty but
also orphaned storage GUID folders since v2....

Another one for the wish list I guess.

Regards,
Tone :)


>
> okay ken, stuart, sylvain:  i have one for you.
>
> 2 DS Nitrii and 2 RPees on a dedicated unity.  7.5 QFE4.
>
> each cpu and MII array has it's own port on the vixel.
>
> one allocation group, one workspace per MII array (7 arrays)
>
> videostorages and audiostorages on each workspace.
>
> MANY projects online and archived.
>
> DS handles media differently than MC.  on unity, MC stores media in a
> subfolder of the main OMFI MediFiles folder on each workspace.  DS stores
> its media in a folder named with the PROJECT's GUID (one of those long
> system numbers like what gets tacked onto a OMFI mediafile name).  one
> folder for audio, one for video.  with the same names!  (be very carefull
> copying media in a DS environment).  the video file folders go in a main
> folder usually called videostorage and the audio files folders into an
> audiostorage folder.
>
> (7 arrays * 1 workspace per array * 1 videostorage folder * # of projects
> ever opened on the system) + (7 arrays * 1 workspace per array * 1
> audiostorage folder * # of projects ever opened on the system) = a very
> large number after a year or so.
>
> unity has limits.  10,000 folders,  500,000 files.  exceeed them with
> caution.
>
> the client setup: 2 DSes, 2 RPs.   LOTS and LOTS of projects go through
> this system monthly.  check setup manager on the unity: 36,000
> folders!!!!!!!  only about 300,000 files.  most of the folders were empty.
>  turns out DS doesn't clean up after itself.  delete a project and it's
> media, the project's media folders are left behind, empty.  cluttering up
> the unity.
>
> my suggested QFE is a small program that deletes empty GUID folders.
>
> i pointed this out to DS ACSR support a couple of times but never heard
> back.
>
> thought i'd throw it out here and the DS-L and see what happens.
>
> stuart, sylvain???
>
> -chris kippes
> A C S R
> Dess, Unetee, Windoes, Mak
> keycodemedia
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Dave is also correct.  The problem is not LanShare versus local storage,
>> but rather the OS in general.  It has to do with Disk Caching that has
>> to happen to track files.
> The thing to remember, though, is that the file limit for LanShare gets
> extended by multi-client setups.  Since you have individual client folders
> within the OMFI MediaFiles folder on LanShare, each of those can have the
> file limit (I usually say 1200 for OS 9 and 2000 for OS X, but the OS X
> figure is a conservative estimate).  So, an OMFI MediaFiles folder could
> have 4000 media files in it for a 2 client setup, 6000 in a 3 client
> setup, etc., etc.  That may be why you haven?t noticed issues before.
> -Ken
>
>
> From: Dave French [mailto:dave(at)simvideo.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:18 PM
> To: acsr
> Subject: [acsr] Re: Lanshare and the Mac File count limit
> Unfortunately, your client is right. LANshare's are not immune to the file
> count limit. I've hit it on both OS9 and OSX systems using LANshare's.
> I've heard many variations on what the limit is but from my experience I
> wouldn't go much above 1200 - 1300 files on an OS9 system. For OSX keep it
> under 3000, usually around 2700 seems ok.
> hope that helps.
> Dave
> On Jun 13, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Ed Segeren wrote:
> We're moving a LanShare-based project from Toronto (PC Avids) to LA (OS9
> Avids).
> Client has been told that it's best to re-distribute the media files onto
> multiple workspaces in order to avoid the Mac demons that surface once the
> file count closes in on 2000 per folder.
> "OK,"  I say, "that's the way it should be for local storage on a Mac.
> But for a LanShare scenario, it's not a concern."
> But he's got me thinking about it.  Even worse, he's got me thinking that
> he's right.
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