RE: Argument against native HDV

[Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony(at)hdheaven.co.uk>]

I think the point that's being missed here is whether you'd want to edit
native even if you could (like FCP can right now).

There was another thread yesterday on an FCP list where the consensus
appeared to be "Forget native HDV - where are the
benefits?".  

Whatever your destination format, the timeline still has to be rendered,
and that takes a looooooong time.

So I'd just like to see Sony bring out an HDV VTR with 422 control and an
HD SDI output.  Or get a box which achieves the same thing, which
currently the Miranda box won't do.

Regards,
Tone :)


At 16:38 26/07/2005, you wrote:

I concur that the best way to handle HDV is to have a lesser system to deal with the files such as a FCP or an Adrenaline. (I can here the shouts of protest from the FCP crowd already :-)) If HDV has to be used on the DS then it must be frame by frame up-converted.
 
The DS and other high end systems seem best used for "premium" source material. It has been demonstrated many times over that the quality of the source footage is not NEARLY as important as who post produces and edits it!
 
Howard

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [ mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Tony Quinsee-Jover
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:13 AM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Argument against native HDV

Hiyas,

We all know we need HDV support.  And when do we want it?... yeah, yeah...

I've argued for a long time that editing native HDV didn't make a lot of sense to me - not unless you were going to end up laying back to HDV. So, more logically, you'd convert on import to whatever your destination format is.  That's what makes sense to my little brain.

Reading on a few FCP lists recently it appears that folks who already have the ability to edit native prefer to convert to some form of intermediate codec for the same reasons.  Plus, as one FCP editor put it "Native HDV is nice but the biggest downside to it is that when you go to do a render or export the final build it takes forever for the computer to convert i,b,p frames into the new i,b,p frames."

So, does anybody want to take up the gauntlet and argue FOR staying native?

I don't have any problem here, I'm just interested in seeing if there are any overwhelming arguments for or against.

Cheers,
Tone :)

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