Of course if you compare DS with After Effects, you will be happy, but all
depends on what you need to do for your client, many of the jobs you will
have to face on the upcoming years will be very influenced by what the
people in the industry is doing, clients will start to talk about
multiplanes, 3D, particles, etc, and you will find that you paid 150.000
For something that do not even have secondary color correction. Oh.. yes you
can cheat.. take a key node, select a color, feed the matte input of a CC
node and you have secondary... yes.. this is the good about DS.. but is not
the same.. when you comes to speed of workflow... even FCP can have that..
and I bet you, that in may be an year or two.. FCP will have more tools than
the DS.. Sad right.. FCP cost just a fraction of what DS cost.. don't even
talk about the incredible amount of time that users like me and other in
this list has invested learning DS and becoming experts.. Switching to
another box is not jut spending the money, is a whole process, learning
again... mastering.. etc...
And please, do not respond this email saying that if I need that set of
tools I should purchased a Flint or a Smoke.. My job and what clients ask me
has evolved, but not the DS, and I like to evolve my self, I like to offer
to my clients always more of what they want, give them the option to have
something better, surprise them. For that reason, DS has become only 1 small
part of the set of tools that I use, but when the world seems to integrate
tools under just one package, I have to loose a lot of time moving files
around.
And also plugins... I've stopped booth by booth to talk with the developers,
and have exactly the same answer on every booth, AVID seems to not care
about, they do not help us... All the boxes are moving to the new format of
plugins that will make all the boxes compatibles... AVID not... they insist
to use AVX2 and close the doors for the whole market. Toxik for example has
adopted the new format, have less than one year in the market and already
have more plugins that the DS...
Even Fusion have a vectorscope and waveform view.. and an amazing 3D
representation of the color box that you can superimpose on any view... and
DS, a 150.000 tool... not.
I could write for hours about my deception, but I'm sure that I'm wasting my
time because AVID... AVID is God and he knows what he is doing is the best
for us....
I'm very sorry to be the one that always complain, I swear that the day that
AVID give us an answer and tell.. OK.. users are the people we must hear and
learn from.. I will be the first to congratulate them. I'm being loyal to
AVID for a long time now, but I can not keep my self in the stone age... In
need to evolve.
Victor Wolansky
DS VFX Artist
WEBsite
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815 Slaters Lane
Alexandria. VA.
443-797-3507
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
Dominik Bauch
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 7:26 AM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: SV: AW: The stone age DS
This sure is some depressing stuff for a Friday...
I have to agree that DS has a few glaring weaknesses, true 3D
compositing being the main culprit but having upgraded to DS from
Symphony in an attempt to avoid the un-client friendly aspects of After
Effects I've found DS to be really impressive and a serious pleasure to
work on in comparison to the seriously shitty Symphony.
DS and Sapphire plug ins have limited my AE time to graphic design and
3D compositing when before I used it for everything. So for me DS has
been a real plus.
Dom
On 5 Aug 2005, at 11:40, Rune Holm wrote:
> Who on this list isn't looking elsewhere. Avid have chosen to keep us
> in the dark so we must make sure we are not burnt bad by their
> seemingly incompetent handling of the DS product. Part of staying
> alive in this buisness is to never put all your trust in one company.
> Fusion, AE and other software will fix what DS can't for now, but when
> the smoke clears and we get to see what Avid have been doing in their
> lab I think a lot of us will have some very hard decisions to make and
> I am sure not all of us will be staying with DS.
>
> Rune
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM]På vegne af
> Knut A. Helgeland
> Sendt: 5. august 2005 11:41
> Til: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Emne: Re: AW: The stone age DS
>
>
> At 09:51 +0100 05-08-05, Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
>> DS will never have a 3D environment.
>>
>> I was told that openly (and quite forcibly) by three different people
>> at NAB.
>
> DS will never have a future.
>
> Time to look elsewhere.
>
> K
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> http://www.toxic.no
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