SV: AW: The stone age DS

["Rune Holm" <rune(at)takeawayfilm.dk>]

Good for you Rick. I am a facility owner and operator myself and for me going FCP would be the same as closing down my buisness. Different clients different needs. It would be nice with a Boxster though.

 

I think you are missing the point when you say:

 

"in my mind, that is what Flame, AE, Shake etc is for."

 

Many DS users have been competing with flame and doing so very well for a long time but when the fx side of the swiss army knife isn't getting any sharper release after release it starts to become a little difficult.

 

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

 

Rune

 

 

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Emne: Re: AW: The stone age DS

Sorry to be late on this thread but I gotta chime in.

 

 As a early purchaser ( Ver 1.0 / Single Stream ) of DS, I liked to say that when I first saw the DS, " I fell in love with editing all over again."  Like many here, I was a former On-line > AVID guy and at the time, the DS combined all of the tools we wanted.  I purchased my system as a Softimage product and was ready to break-away from the AVID line for good.  But then they bought Softimage.  There were rumors back then that they were gonna "kill" the product because it competed with MC and Symphony, but quite the contrary, they improved the product and it became their flagship.  I had mixed reactions back then and still do today.  On one level, I felt vindicated that the system I chose to build my business turned out to be a smart decision, but frustrated when I saw the "bastardization" and "dilution" of the DS becoming more like MC.

 

After following this thread for awhile, I conclude that some of you are not happy where they perceive the future of DS is headed.  Many of you want more "high end" effects but in my mind, that is what Flame, AE, Shake etc is for.  ( I am sure to get totally flamed by that comment I know. )  

 

Remember, the biggest selling feature / advantage to DS was being like " A Swiss Army Knife" and some of you expect " A Chain Saw".  There is bound to be a plateau for ANY product to slow advancement and features.  That is where new products come in to compete.

 

For me, my biggest complaint is simply cost.  The cost to upgrade my 3.01 system to current was in the $80K range.  That is simply unacceptable to me.  I am still doing 100% standard def work and FORCED to buy a HD box.  Don't need it ( right now ).  Rather than add new features, I would simply like to see the cost come down.

 

Although not as elegant as a DS, there are numerous 3rd party programs that coupled with FCP can and do compete with the DS, AT A FRACTION of the cost.  Sure, a few more steps in and out.

 

Right now, in lieu of upgrading my DS, I am considering replacing it with a 2nd full blown FCP suite for my growing business, and a brand new Boxster S for me. ( Roughly the same dough. )  And my clients will be as happy as an alligator at a lakeside pet parade.  They just love the Apple Cinema displays.

 

So before I get trashed, I respectfully remind you that I am a facility owner/operator and I put my money where my mouth is.  My .02¢ 

 

Rick at nakedeye