Re: Live Capture

Date : Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:36:26 +0200
To : DS(at)Softimage.COM
From : Andi Loor <andiloor(at)algonet.se>
Subject : Re: Live Capture
What everybody seems to forget is the new ability to recapture a live captured sequence based on tape name and timecode. In a case of capturing close to a timecode brake this will be very useful, and this is ta typical situation when I use live capture. A recapture can be performed manually live a second time and the right part of the captured clip should automatically turn up in the timeline. Very useful.
Andi


Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:

Hi Simon,

Yeah, well, it's not even mentioned in the 7.6 New Features guide, so I guess it looks like they forgot to mention it.

I stand by my comment about it being an incorrect workflow in the first place though, so Avid were unlikely to realise it was such a big deal to some folks when it changed.

Seeya,
Tone :)


At 10:24 26/08/2005, you wrote:

Cummon Tone:
Do you really think that the Users of DS sit and reread the manuals each time a new version of software is released.
Perhaps a better way to have done it would be to send out a "updated workflows / amendments since the last version of software" document.


Simon


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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of Tony Quinsee-Jover
Sent: Fri 26/08/2005 10:12
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture


Well, as for things being flagged up to users.....

The V7.6 Capture And Output Guide

Pages 48 and 49 - "Performing a Live Capture"

On page 49 between steps 10 and 11 is.... a big exclamation mark with a note next to it which states "It is very important to assign a unique name to every tape because Avid DS Nitris uses it to identify the captured media"

On Page 50 - "Capturing Audio through a Microphone"

Step 8 states "Select other capture settings. See "Logging and Capturing Clips from Tape" on Page 39"

Personally, I never realised that DS wouldn't overwrite material captured live prior to v7.6. The reason I never realised it was that this has always been a golden rule on DS - "A unique tape name for every tape, otherwise select 'Manual Reel' ". So I've had a reel called "Mic" for years, which is a manual reel. I didn't even realise I didn't have to.

What's really being said here is that some folks have been taking advantage of what was effectively a bug but that bug has now been addressed.

Perhaps it could be argued that Avid should have flagged up this change more loudly, but how were they to know that people were using what was effectively a bug as a part of their regular workflow?

Regards,
Tone :)



At 09:20 26/08/2005, you wrote:


I can see how this would be beneficial, but Russ is correct in saying that implementing a feature like this, which can and did have devastating consequences should be flagged up to the users who have to deal with the client fall out


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        From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of Tony Quinsee-Jover
        Sent: Fri 26/08/2005 09:17
        To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
        Subject: Re: Live Capture


How is adding a long-requested feature "breaking the code" ?

        T.

        At 22:53 25/08/2005, you wrote:


in other words, they break something, and call it a new feature.


                who is this... microsoft???


david friedman


On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:28 PM, Russ Grycza wrote:




                         Hi Paul -

I agree that a change like this with potentially devastaing consequences should have received a BIG notice in the update literature. People have been used to live mode not overwriting previously captured clips, and for it to suddenly start overwriting would be a big shock.

That being said, it is a feature many people in the past have requested. Mostly, I believe, by people who've had to capture live due to time code burps in their tapes and then want to be able to go back and recapture.

And, a problem easy enough to correct, as long as you're aware of it, by selecting manual reels (I think that's right - I'm in the process of converting from 6.0 to 7.6 right now) to allow for duplicate timecodes from the same reel.

Maybe they can add a big warning when you go to digitize in live mode without manual reels selected that you may be wiping out previously captured material?

                         Russ


----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Painter To: DS(at)Softimage.COM Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Live Capture

                         Sylvain Labrosse wrote:


Live capture has been changed recently (7.5, or was it 7.6?) to support recapture, so yes it has been changed.


If you can't recapture live material, who bothered to change it?
This new feature messes things up, and fixes nothing that I can tell.
Twice already I've lost scratch tracks by doing pickup lines because of this "fix."


"Yes, Mr. Client. That half hour script you just read... well, it's gone. That's just the way DS is."


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