RE: Live Capture

["Hollis, Mark (NBC Universal)" <Mark.Hollis(at)nbcuni.com>]

In other words, they were trying to help us out.

 

One possible "Jover" might be to put an Horita heapy-cheapy timecode generator set to time-of-day, continuous generation and input that timecode into the external XLR timecode input of your DS. We have our Master Clock timecode input there and we do record "time-of-day" feeds with that feature. We are very careful to name our reels so that we do not bite ourselves in the rear by recording over the same clip by setting to the external XLR in the capture dialog, switching to "live" and then carefully naming the reel -- in our case the router selector identifier and the subject matter -- and then naming the clip.

 

I have never used the "recapture" feature in this environment, as a life feed from, say Coral Gables, Florida (aftermath of Hurricane Katrina) will most certainly never be re-fed to us in exactly the same way, and a voiceover would probably be replaced with a "Take 2" capture, but this workaround with an external timecode generator will save your kiester should you be in this situation.

 

An unique tape identifier will, for those without a timecode generator, serve to prevent blowing away all-ready captured voiceovers. Just name the "tape" "Retrack 1" It can have the same zero-start "timecode" as a "tape" labeled "track."

 

I should also mention that, whevever I record voiceover, especially from one of our anchors, I roll a backup Betacam tape just in case (belt and suspenders).

-----Original Message-----
From: Sylvain Labrosse [mailto:slabross(at)Softimage.COM]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 6:14 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

Think of a capture from a source that does have timecode.  A good example provide by Louis-Philippe:

 

In a post environment, there's no point to this feature, but in a broadcast environment, it's immensely important. It works this way because some people may want to capture a live feed with timecode while it's taping (which is what a lot of broadcast facilities do). Capture from tape will expect the VTR to cue up to the capture point, which is not possible in this case.

 

We implemented the feature for this reason.

Sylvain Labrosse
Avid DS Support
Escalation team
http://www.softimage.com/avidds
Check the v7.6 Learning Collection

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Simon Graham
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:40 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

That doesnt make sense,

If its a live capture there is no inherent timecode, + if you fed the DS with House code  there would still be no link to the Non-TC source.

If you layed the non TC source to a digi or other source then you would negate the need for a live capture.

 

Simon Graham

LIP SYNC POST

LONDON

Tel: +44 (0) 7899 810644

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of Sylvain Labrosse
Sent: Thu 25/08/2005 18:20
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

You answered your question.  You must capture with timecode for the recapture to work.  Otherwise, how magically would it work?

 

Sylvain

 

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Simon Graham
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:13 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

Thanks Sylvain,

How exactly would you recapture, If there is no timecode control in the first instance??

 

Simon Graham

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LONDON

Tel: +44 (0) 7899 810644

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of Sylvain Labrosse
Sent: Thu 25/08/2005 17:41
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

Live capture has been changed recently (7.5, or was it 7.6?) to support recapture, so yes it has been changed.

 

As with Tape capture, DS is looking at the Source name and Timecode information, not the clip name.  Keeping the same information will cause indeed this problem.

 

So if you capture without a timecode feed (in the remote cable from the deck), Live capture behaves as before and starts its timecode at 00:00:00:00.  The last captured media show for all previous captured clips.

 

Feed timecode and Live capture will register this information and marks each Live captured clip with a different timecode, thus showing the correct media from each clips.

 

And if you accidentally lose this material, you can now recapture, as before it was not possible.  :-))

Sylvain Labrosse
Avid DS Support
Escalation team
http://www.softimage.com/avidds
Check the v7.6 Learning Collection

 

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Simon Graham
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:33 AM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Live Capture

I was wondering if this has changed in V7 ??

On live capture I set a tape name and capture clips from a non-TC source .

Upon multiple captures DS ascends the name,  but upon viewing the clips the media from one clip has been applied to all clips, as though you have captured different tapes but forgot to change the tape name?

Previously on V6 I could capture from a non-tc source and not change tape names,  the clips would be captured and retained as they were captured.

 

Is this a bug or something that I'm missing.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Simon

 

Simon Graham

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LONDON

Tel: +44 (0) 7899 810644