Re: Live Capture

[Tom Edwards <tdcone(at)bellsouth.net>]

Here Here...
We do exactly that. We take SDI from live feeds over fiber or downlink into a Evertz 8010TM SDI Time Code Reader/Generator that decodes VITC time code to LTC and then we insert that into one of those "cheap ;-) " Horita TCI-50 Reader RS-422 Inserters. This allows us to capture "live" material into a DS (Equinox) via the RS-422 port without a deck connected. Without the latest software revisions, DS would not show actual time code when captured this way. Now you can see the real time time code as you capture instead of wondering if the clip started at 00:00:00:00 - instead of the true time code -  which could only be verified after you stopped capturing - ouch! Captures done this way allow for "re-captures" from tape copies since the code does match. This is a big time saver when quick repairs must be made to a live show that that airings in other time zones and repeat airings later that same day.

Tom Edwards
MTV Networks


Sylvain Labrosse wrote:

Think of a capture from a source that does have timecode.  A good example provide by Louis-Philippe:

 

In a post environment, there's no point to this feature, but in a broadcast environment, it's immensely important. It works this way because some people may want to capture a live feed with timecode while it's taping (which is what a lot of broadcast facilities do). Capture from tape will expect the VTR to cue up to the capture point, which is not possible in this case.

 

We implemented the feature for this reason.

Sylvain Labrosse
Avid DS Support
Escalation team
http://www.softimage.com/avidds
Check the v7.6 Learning Collection

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Simon Graham
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:40 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

That doesnt make sense,

If its a live capture there is no inherent timecode, + if you fed the DS with House code  there would still be no link to the Non-TC source.

If you layed the non TC source to a digi or other source then you would negate the need for a live capture.

 

Simon Graham

LIP SYNC POST

LONDON

Tel: +44 (0) 7899 810644

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of Sylvain Labrosse
Sent: Thu 25/08/2005 18:20
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

You answered your question.  You must capture with timecode for the recapture to work.  Otherwise, how magically would it work?

 

Sylvain

 

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Simon Graham
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:13 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

Thanks Sylvain,

How exactly would you recapture, If there is no timecode control in the first instance??

 

Simon Graham

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LONDON

Tel: +44 (0) 7899 810644

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of Sylvain Labrosse
Sent: Thu 25/08/2005 17:41
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Live Capture

Live capture has been changed recently (7.5, or was it 7.6?) to support recapture, so yes it has been changed.

 

As with Tape capture, DS is looking at the Source name and Timecode information, not the clip name.  Keeping the same information will cause indeed this problem.

 

So if you capture without a timecode feed (in the remote cable from the deck), Live capture behaves as before and starts its timecode at 00:00:00:00.  The last captured media show for all previous captured clips.

 

Feed timecode and Live capture will register this information and marks each Live captured clip with a different timecode, thus showing the correct media from each clips.

 

And if you accidentally lose this material, you can now recapture, as before it was not possible.  :-))

Sylvain Labrosse
Avid DS Support
Escalation team
http://www.softimage.com/avidds
Check the v7.6 Learning Collection

 

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Simon Graham
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:33 AM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Live Capture

I was wondering if this has changed in V7 ??

On live capture I set a tape name and capture clips from a non-TC source .

Upon multiple captures DS ascends the name,  but upon viewing the clips the media from one clip has been applied to all clips, as though you have captured different tapes but forgot to change the tape name?

Previously on V6 I could capture from a non-tc source and not change tape names,  the clips would be captured and retained as they were captured.

 

Is this a bug or something that I'm missing.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Simon

 

Simon Graham

LIP SYNC POST

LONDON

Tel: +44 (0) 7899 810644