RE: IBC/ DI impact

["Victor Wolansky" <victorw(at)NATMEDIA.com>]

And welcome to the DS Users complaining list!!!   J

 

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris Smith
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:12 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: IBC/ DI impact

 

If DS is to be serious about DI and color correction in general, I think it needs some very simple changes that make it more DaVinci like:

 

Easy power windows and kilovectors.  Yeah you can make them with a matte piped into a color corrector and a keyer piped into a color corrector, but to move quickly, I feel they should work more seamlessly.  Of course if they'd add the ability to create true Custom UI's for node trees we could make great ones ourselves.  

 

But I'm a DS newb so I could be missing something.

 

 

Chris Smith

Partner/Film Director

Sugar Film Production

3699 McKinney #222

Dallas 75204

214.655.2662

http://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

 

On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:09 AM, rich tencza wrote:

Whew. 

(Heavy exhale/sigh of relief:)

 

--- Tony Quinsee-Jover <tony(at)hdheaven.co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi Rich.

 

The comment (or announcement) that DS was to 

'become the DI box' appears to have been a 

hastily-dreamed-up-on-the-spur-of-the-moment

announcement for NAB.

 

It's not been mentioned since, and if it's the 

case, why was DS completely absent from BOTH of 

the Avid stands (Hall 1 and Hall 7) whereas Phony 

Nitris was in appearance on both, billed on both 

occasions as "The world's most powerful HD 

Editor" (which of course is complete bullsh1t

because DS is way more powerful).

 

Any improvements made in the DI workflow side of 

DS will have no impact on the rest of its 

operation. Rather, it will simplify some 

operations (such as DS's handling of file sources).

 

Regards,

Tone :)

 

 

At 15:17 12/09/2005, you wrote:

I know the concerns are that the DS "seems" to be

slated to become the DI box. I have a general idea

 

but

could someone explain exactly (and pardon my

ignorance) what comprises the "Digital

 

Intermediate"

and its workflow that the DS is "supposed" to

 

become?

And if that does happen will it affect the present

capabilities, tools and what the DS is right now

 

(that

we all know and love)? Thanks.

 

RT

 

--- Serge Verreault <sverreault(at)s29post.com> wrote:

 

Avid just can't say anything now.........

 

And beside this List is monitored by the

Competition.

The Giant seems quiet but he's not.

What play against them is Time.

 

Are WE going to wait for it?

That is the real question.

 

Can you still be Competitive NOW without 3D

Compositing Environment and

no Planar Tracker and other crucial Features?

 

How much longer the Users on this List are going

 

to

wait?

How much longer the Users on this List can wait

without glimpse of the

Future?

 

These are the real question, the rest is

 

irrelevant.

 

This is Marketing and Management Job, not mine

 

or

Tony to do.

 

Tone and I, are asking Avid to move and they

 

don't.

 

Let's hope they know what they're doing and they

won't have lost too

much Market Share to the Competition.

 

How many of you have lost Faith in DS and Avid?

 

I'm afraid the vast majority of the Users has,

and we certainly can't blame you!

 

Maybe AVID should do an Official Poll with this

question:

 

Do you believe that AVID can compete

(Pricing/Features) in the

Middle-High End Editing Market, in a short/long

term?

 

Each day that passes, makes this Community more

anxious and confused.

 

Is 64 bits and DI workflow is what you're all

waiting for?

 

 

Have a good DS Day!

 

 

:-)

 

-----Message d'origine-----

De : owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM

[mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] De la part

de Timon Mahony

Envoyé : September 12, 2005 8:56 AM

À : DS(at)Softimage.COM

Objet : RE: IBC

 

Tony,

 

I know, you said on Saturday night... (hope you

weren't too much of a

mess

on Sunday) But, it was an effort for you to be

 

told

what you were, and

you

alone... It doesn't bode well... This year DS

 

truly

was the "ginger

stepchild" at the family reunion... And if the

future is so bright, why

aren't Avid handing the shades and sunscreen

 

that is

specifications/road

maps... Call me a traditionalist but, I'd like

 

to

know where it's going

before spending anymore money on it...

 

Especially as

Avid's attitude to

the

product/user base is in stark contrast to other

manufacturers the

majority

of whom are more than willing to enter into

 

dialogue

with present and

potential customers, which is quite

 

refreshing...

 

Cheers

 

Timon

 

-----Original Message-----

From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM

[mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of

Tony Quinsee-Jover

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:06 PM

To: DS(at)Softimage.COM

Subject: RE: IBC

 

 

The future is not that dark :)

 

T.

 

At 12:35 12/09/2005, you wrote:

This made me laugh out loud.. but also

 

angry/sad...

 

There was no DS on either of the Avid stands

 

(What

kind of message does

that

project?), and only one in the demo suites

 

upstairs... alongside 7/8 BS

Nitrii, and sitting in there, it felt like

 

being

the first arrivals at

a

funeral... And it was no surprise to find

 

fellow

DS'ers all over the

Autodesk stand...

 

I was told by the DS demo artist, and the sales

 

monkey that they

believed

v8

would be out around the end of the year and

 

that it

would be 64bit...

and

they could tell me nothing else about it,

 

despite

being assured by the

aforementioned sales monkey, that they would be

 

showing v8 at the show

three

weeks earlier... I have to say that it does

 

seem

odd, that if you are

going

to release it towards the end of the year, then

 

surely you'd want to

display

it, at the one big trade show before next years

 

 

 

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