Re: HDV - again

Date : Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:30:25 -0500
To : DS(at)Softimage.COM
From : Timothy Duncan <timothy.duncan(at)gmail.com>
Subject : Re: HDV - again
If you've got the time for the conversion,  the Vegas software can very nicely convert the 1080i to 30P or 24P (but you HAVE to shoot in 60i without turning on any Cineframe setting on the Sony). But -- this process loses all TC data from the originals. :-(

I've found Canopus Edius to be the absolute best software for handling HDV.  The latest version of Edius allows batch capture directly into the Canopus HQ codec.  As Edius grows and matures, it will definitely be a force to reckon with.  It can do more in real-time than *any* system I have ever seen at any price. It also makes sharing media across multiple systems a snap, as you can source from any shared drives. I get incredible results playing media over a simple 100 base network. I can even play Quicktime Decklink files from our Macs via the office network.  Effects controls are limited and weak, but basic editing and file format conversions are excellent.   They have developed a way to buffer frames into ram since they can manipulate files much faster than real-time. If I could just get the Video FX and incredible audio engine from Vegas, the tree-based FX from Avid, and the render engine and codecs from Canopus all rolled into one package -- I would truly be a happy camper. 

(There is a codec option from Canopus for $999, that gives you DVCPro HD and DVCPro-50 support via 1394).

td

On 9/25/05, Matthew Small <digital_only(at)earthlink.net> wrote:
On Sep 22, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Bob Maple wrote:
See what I know below:

> Does anyone know if the component out on the Sony HDR-FX1 camera
> actually spits out HD?

Yes. When properly setup through the menu, the output of the component
is 1080i (at) 59.94 fps.  We've used the AJA HD10A to convert the
component out to HDSDI.  Downside is there is no deck control.

> Just found the manual online but it's a little vague.
>  And more importantly, if it does, what happens when you shoot at
> 24fps?

Sony does not use a standard 2:3 pulldown.  They use a variant
developed by Cineform called Cineframe:

http://www.cineform.com/products/SonyHDVSupport/CineFrame.htm

It "looks" like 2:3 but I don't think you could pull any Psf out of it.
  There's another test of the Cineframe mode:

http://www.adamwilt.com/HDV/cineframe.html

> Is it recorded on tape at 30 really with 3:2 in it like 24fps on
> MiniDV?

With Sony's HDV, it's not like the Panisonic DXV-100A DV where it
embeds standard or advanced 2:3 on a base 30 tape (ala Telecine)
Your best option might be to shoot in PAL and convert to 24Psf from
there.

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