Re: can't get crop curves to work

Date : Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:26:52 -0400
To : <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "Russ Grycza" <RGBavidDS(at)buckeye-express.com>
Subject : Re: can't get crop curves to work
Could get messy - the DS would need to know which spans you wanted to keep
the same and which could change, and then if there were several areas in an
effect that could change how the keyframes would be distributed or taken
away - the variations are endless.

Do any other editing/compositing systems offer this, and if so, how do they
handle things?

What I'd really like is to be able to make a preset of an effect, say a
dissolve out, with a fixed duration, say 15 frames. Then when I apply the
effect to a clip, I don't have to readjust the duration each time. And with
what you now know, this would solve your problem, too, Larry.

Russ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Schmitt" <LSchmitt(at)duart.com>
To: <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: can't get crop curves to work


> Thanks guys for the fast response. I guess I will do it as 2 effects one
for
> in and one for out. It would be great if it scaled but kept the span
between
> selected keyframes the same. Oh well V8 maybe???
> Thanks again
> Larry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Maple" <bobm-ds(at)burner.com>
> To: <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: can't get crop curves to work
>
>
> > > Help.
> > > I have a bunch of tiff files as titles and I built a tree with alpha
> > > fade in and out. The clip I built this on was 5 seconds long.
> > > Now I want to copy that effect to all my other tiffs of varying
> > > length keeping my 12 frame in and out effects. This is what
> > > I tried... Saved effect with cropped curves checked, then
> > > pasted on 10 second clip. Up is fine but it fades out at 5
> > > second point.
> >
> > So it sounds like you have a single effect, with two sets of keyframes..
> one
> > set at the beginning doing the fade in, and one set at the tail doing
the
> > fade out.  Right?
> >
> > In this case as a single effect, you can't make it automatically scale
the
> > keyframes to the new clip's duration, without it actually scaling the
> > duration of your existing keyframes (IE if pasted on a longer clip, the
> > fades themselves would also get longer).  You sort of want your group of
> > keyframes at the beginning to stick to the beginning, and your group of
> > keyframes at the end to stick at the end.  Unfortunately, with a single
> > effect, this is not possible.
> >
> > Depending on how your tree is built, you might instead break it into 2
> > separate effects and use a single-sided transition on each side of the
> clip
> > (one for the fadeup and one for the fadeout)...  Then you can easily
apply
> > them to clips of varying lengths.  The only time something like this
won't
> > work is if your fade up/fade down is not to/from 100%.  In which case,
> > you'll have to manually slide the keyframes down to match the proper
> > durations (you can do this in the Animation Editor by group selecting
the
> > end keyframes, and then shifting them at once by typing "30+" into the
> Frame
> > box at the top of the editor, to shift down 30 frames, etc.)
> >
> > I'd actually put on my 'wish list' a way to GROUP keyframes, so that you
> > could do things exactly like this.  For instance, imagine being able to
> > group clumps of keyframes within an effect;  And when you stretch the
> > effect, the relationship BETWEEN the groups of keyframes would change,
but
> > the relationship INSIDE the groups of keyframes would not.  Right now
when
> > you scale an effect (with crop curves turned off) it scales the
> relationship
> > between all the keyframes evenly, slowing down or speeding up the entire
> > effect).  Would be real handy, but I don't know if it's anything we'll
> ever
> > see (although I have not seen such a feature in any other software..
> someone
> > should jump on this! :)
> >
> >
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> > |
> > |  Thom Yorke: "Here's to getting hitched, Space Ghost."
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> >
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