Chris Smith
Partner/Film Director
Sugar Film Production
3699 McKinney #222
Dallas 75204
214.655.2662
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Interesting. My question is though would that work? Because if you
double click the 'effects tree' clip effect you get the blank page
with the expand button in a parameter editor. But once you click
expand, the tree opens in a float viewer.
I'm not at DS right now. Could you just hit the lock button and the
tree will open into the same embedded window?
Chris Smith
Partner/Film Director
Sugar Film Production
3699 McKinney #222
Dallas 75204
214.655.2662
http://www.sugarfilmproduction.com
On Oct 1, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> My not just make a new editing layout that replicates your
> compositing layout?
>
> Regards,
> Tone :)
>
>
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On
> Behalf Of Chris Smith
> Sent: 01 October 2005 15:11
> To: ds(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Workflow Question
>
> reminder: noob in training.
>
> It seems that when I start to do effects with a clip I just go for
> a clip effect added in the top timeline. But as soon as I have more
> than 3 or 4 effects or need to pipe things in multiple branches, it
> becomes clear it should live as an effects tree. Well, obviously
> there is the right-clickable option to 'convert to effects tree',
> however now it is one clip effect. So to modify it, you have to
> click on that effect, then hit the expand button, then have a
> floating window covering your workspace. Then I made my own user
> toolbar with all the effects I want in a specific order which I
> built in to the main 'compositing' timeline. So now I have to open
> it as a separate floater. Then when I actually change a node, a
> parameter editor has to pop as a floater. So now I'm basically in
> what should be my compositing mode but with all these windows
> floating over my editing mode.
>
> Like many of you, I re-did the 'compositing' layout to work
> beautifully for what I need (I simulated Shake for mine). So it
> seems ridiculous that I should be doing my effects tree work on the
> top timeline in floating windows.
>
> So the question is: Is there a way to take a clip with effects and
> with one function, turn the clip into a composite container AND
> convert the effects to an effects tree piped into that layer within
> the 'composite' layout? So you basically can just jump over to
> composite mode and have your effects rebuild into a tree in that mode.
>
> Right now I am collapsing the effects into a effects tree on the
> timeline. Then turning the clip into a composite container. Then
> opening said effects tree. lassoing all the nodes. Hitting COPY.
> Then pasting them into the layer's effect tree in the composite
> layout. Kind of a hassle.
>
> Chris Smith
> Partner/Film Director
> Sugar Film Production
> 3699 McKinney #222
> Dallas 75204
> 214.655.2662
> http://www.sugarfilmproduction.com
>
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Interesting. My question is though would that work? Because if you double click the 'effects tree' clip effect you get the blank page with the expand button in a parameter editor. But once you click expand, the tree opens in a float viewer.
I'm not at DS right now. Could you just hit the lock button and the tree will open into the same embedded window?
On Oct 1, 2005, at 9:45 AM, Tony Quinsee-Jover wrote:
Hi Chris,
On Oct 1, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Michael Jensen wrote:
Chris,
I think you have already found the easiest way to do what you want to do. I personally almost always work with tree effects to begin with because it is easier to rearrange, bypass and visualize your effect overall.
Michael
reminder: noob in training.
My not just make a new editing layout that replicates your compositing layout?
Regards,
Tone :)
reminder: noob in training.
It seems that when I start to do effects with a clip I just go for a clip effect added in the top timeline. But as soon as I have more than 3 or 4 effects or need to pipe things in multiple branches, it becomes clear it should live as an effects tree. Well, obviously there is the right-clickable option to 'convert to effects tree', however now it is one clip effect. So to modify it, you have to click on that effect, then hit the expand button, then have a floating window covering your workspace. Then I made my own user toolbar with all the effects I want in a specific order which I built in to the main 'compositing' timeline. So now I have to open it as a separate floater. Then when I actually change a node, a parameter editor has to pop as a floater. So now I'm basically in what should be my compositing mode but with all these windows floating over my editing mode.
Like many of you, I re-did the 'compositing' layout to work beautifully for what I need (I simulated Shake for mine). So it seems ridiculous that I should be doing my effects tree work on the top timeline in floating windows.
So the question is: Is there a way to take a clip with effects and with one function, turn the clip into a composite container AND convert the effects to an effects tree piped into that layer within the 'composite' layout? So you basically can just jump over to composite mode and have your effects rebuild into a tree in that mode.
Right now I am collapsing the effects into a effects tree on the timeline. Then turning the clip into a composite container. Then opening said effects tree. lassoing all the nodes. Hitting COPY. Then pasting them into the layer's effect tree in the composite layout. Kind of a hassle.
Chris Smith
Partner/Film Director
Sugar Film Production
3699 McKinney #222
Dallas 75204
214.655.2662
Like many of you, I re-did the 'compositing' layout to work beautifully for what I need (I simulated Shake for mine). So it seems ridiculous that I should be doing my effects tree work on the top timeline in floating windows.
So the question is: Is there a way to take a clip with effects and with one function, turn the clip into a composite container AND convert the effects to an effects tree piped into that layer within the 'composite' layout? So you basically can just jump over to composite mode and have your effects rebuild into a tree in that mode.
Right now I am collapsing the effects into a effects tree on the timeline. Then turning the clip into a composite container. Then opening said effects tree. lassoing all the nodes. Hitting COPY. Then pasting them into the layer's effect tree in the composite layout. Kind of a hassle.
Chris Smith
Partner/Film Director
Sugar Film Production
3699 McKinney #222
Dallas 75204
214.655.2662
