Hi Chris,
Personally, I generally start with clip effects (and occasionally leave
them as a big stack if they have varying durations).
If I then need to convert them to a tree I use Ctrl+9 to make the Effects
Tree and open that Effects Tree with Shift+Double-click.
Floating PPGs don't bother me - I leave them recycled and just click on
each node in turn as I need to open their properties.
If floating PPGs bothered me however, I'd make a new layout.
I NEVER put a clip into a Compositing Container if I can avoid it as the
clip then has no relationship to the rest of the timeline, and loses sync
with any associated audio.
On a long timeline for broadcast work I usually end up collapsing all
effects sections into Composite Containers so as to end up with a tidy,
one-track edit that I ALWAYS top off with a CC set to clip to legal
values. But I don't do this until the edit is locked.
Regards,
Tone :)
> Good advice. I prefer trees by a long shot, but if the effect
> started out simple, instead of having a tree with one or two nodes I
> tend to want to just do a clip effect. But of course there is always
> that one more thing it needs then you've outgrown your effects stack.
>
> Do you just always make a clip a composite container and do trees
> regardless even if it's a node or two? Or do you make an alternate
> Edit layout like Tony suggested to do your trees and do your trees in
> the 'effect tree' clip effect?
>
>
> Chris Smith
> Partner/Film Director
> Sugar Film Production
> 3699 McKinney #222
> Dallas 75204
> 214.655.2662
> http://www.sugarfilmproduction.com
>
> On Oct 1, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Michael Jensen wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think you have already found the easiest way to do what you want
>> to do. I personally almost always work with tree effects to begin
>> with because it is easier to rearrange, bypass and visualize your
>> effect overall.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On
>> Behalf Of Chris Smith
>> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:11 AM
>> To: ds(at)Softimage.COM
>> Subject: Workflow Question
>>
>>
>>
>> reminder: noob in training.
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems that when I start to do effects with a clip I just go for
>> a clip effect added in the top timeline. But as soon as I have more
>> than 3 or 4 effects or need to pipe things in multiple branches, it
>> becomes clear it should live as an effects tree. Well, obviously
>> there is the right-clickable option to 'convert to effects tree',
>> however now it is one clip effect. So to modify it, you have to
>> click on that effect, then hit the expand button, then have a
>> floating window covering your workspace. Then I made my own user
>> toolbar with all the effects I want in a specific order which I
>> built in to the main 'compositing' timeline. So now I have to open
>> it as a separate floater. Then when I actually change a node, a
>> parameter editor has to pop as a floater. So now I'm basically in
>> what should be my compositing mode but with all these windows
>> floating over my editing mode.
>>
>>
>>
>> Like many of you, I re-did the 'compositing' layout to work
>> beautifully for what I need (I simulated Shake for mine). So it
>> seems ridiculous that I should be doing my effects tree work on the
>> top timeline in floating windows.
>>
>>
>>
>> So the question is: Is there a way to take a clip with effects and
>> with one function, turn the clip into a composite container AND
>> convert the effects to an effects tree piped into that layer within
>> the 'composite' layout? So you basically can just jump over to
>> composite mode and have your effects rebuild into a tree in that mode.
>>
>>
>>
>> Right now I am collapsing the effects into a effects tree on the
>> timeline. Then turning the clip into a composite container. Then
>> opening said effects tree. lassoing all the nodes. Hitting COPY.
>> Then pasting them into the layer's effect tree in the composite
>> layout. Kind of a hassle.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Smith
>> Partner/Film Director
>> Sugar Film Production
>> 3699 McKinney #222
>> Dallas 75204
>> 214.655.2662
>> http://www.sugarfilmproduction.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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