And this:
http://www.mixeffects.com/dspsx.php
Andi Loor wrote:
You mean like this:
http://www2.softimage.com/DS2/right/document/LearnColl/default.htm
Andi
David Tarr wrote:
Maybe if we had a DS version of this:
http://softimage.wiki.avid.com/index.php/Main_Page
it could expand on the knowledge found in the documentation while not
unduly adding work to a, presumably, already overtaxed staff (since
it's community driven).
-Dave
On 10/11/05, *Andi Loor* <andiloor(at)algonet.se
<mailto:andiloor(at)algonet.se>> wrote:
David,
please note that the DS helpfiles do actually carry a lot of info. I
think you can find some areas of DS better covered in the helpfiles.
Andi
david friedman wrote:
> yeah... one of the items that i begged, borrowed, & stole was a
copy
> of the fisherman tutorial which as you know was last issued with
> version 5. i made my way through it using version 7. it was/is an
> EXCELLENT tutorial and should be updated and provided with all new
> systems.
>
> as you alluded to, the getting started guide is good as a prep
manual
> to the 101 class. but that means that new users are PRACTICALLY
> REQUIRED to take the classes in order to learn ANYTHING about
how to
> use a ds because of the lack of a decent tutorial AND the lack of
> clearly written documentation.
>
> that shouldn't be.
>
>
> david friedman
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Benoit Melancon wrote:
>
>> Hello David,
>>
>> Being an ACI for a living, I quite agree with you that the
featured
>> documentation when you first get your DS can be quite dry to
read...
>> Your story about spending a month on your own seems to me
something
>> that most users have to go through somehow (isn't it the case
with
>> most software packages available today?), and where I work we
usually
>> tell the people who enroll for the 101 class to at least go
through
>> the "Getting Started" manual which is good groundwork for DS
usage.
>> When they come to the class after that, their questions are
always
>> more numerous and well-targeted.
>>
>> I believe as you do that classes are a good way to add to basic
>> knowledge of the box. The major thing that changed over the
years in
>> DS education is the dissapearance of what used to be called the
>> "fisherman's project', a 200-page or so tutorial that users
could go
>> through on their own. I seem to remember that one of the
reasons was
>> that some editors missed some key elements when doing the
tutorial by
>> themselves, and having a class environment was therefore
considered a
>> better alternative.
>>
>> I'm usually better at learning on my own, so I can't really
comment
>> that much on such decision, but I agree it would be nice to
have a
>> choice.
>>
>> Benoit
>>
>>
>> david friedman wrote:
>>
>>> agreed. i took all 3 classes too. fortunately or unfortunately
all
>>> of my 'classes' ended up being 1 on 1 training.
>>> but before that i spent a MONTH with the manuals and the system
>>> trying to figger out how to work the damn thing.
>>> d/l'ed everything i could from the web site (even stuff from
earlier
>>> versions),
>>> read... played... tinkered... cursed a lot (come to think of
it, i
>>> STILL do that sometimes) just trying to understand how it works.
>>> i shouldn't HAVE to take classes in order to learn how to use
ANY
>>> software! classes should provide supplemental information (maybe
>>> except 101 classes)
>>> i SHOULD have been able to get a fair understanding from the
>>> supplied documentation. that's what the docs are SUPPOSED to
be for.
>>> with ds they aren't.
>>> david friedman
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Benoit Melancon
>> Avid DS ACI/ACSR
>>
>> www.nadcentre.com <http://www.nadcentre.com>
>> ---
>> Subscribe? E-mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM
<mailto:Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM> with the following text in
>> body: subscribe ds
>> Unsubscribe? E-Mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM
<mailto:Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM> with the following text
>> in body: unsubscribe ds
>>
>
> ---
> Subscribe? E-mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM
<mailto:Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM> with the following text in
> body: subscribe ds
> Unsubscribe? E-Mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM
<mailto:Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM> with the following text in
> body: unsubscribe ds
>
--
Andi Loor
www.andiloor.se <http://www.andiloor.se>
---
Subscribe? E-mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM
<mailto:Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM> with the following text in body:
subscribe ds
Unsubscribe? E-Mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM
<mailto:Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM> with the following text in body:
unsubscribe ds
--
Andi Loor
www.andiloor.se
---
Subscribe? E-mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM with the following text in body: subscribe ds
Unsubscribe? E-Mail Majordomo(at)Softimage.COM with the following text in body: unsubscribe ds
