Re: secondary color correction

["Boros, Igor" <Igor.Boros(at)bbdo.ca>]

Title: Re: secondary color correction

While I’m up for many of the improvements DS CC needs, I really don’t think DS (or flame, or inferno, or smoke or iQ  ... etc.) will ever be a DaVInci or it should be a DaVinci for hat matter since that’s not what the box is built for.
Are all the tools there for us to use and achieve the same result? Sure they are! But DS is not and will not be a grading only tool ... and of course something like DaVinci or Lustre or whatever will always do a much “smoother” job of grading since that’s the only thing those boxes are designed for, I’d be worried if DaVinci did not do a better job then DS ... as always, “horses for courses”.

Having said that, DS does need many improvements to it’s color correction and grading set of tools, better integration, more options ... etc. As far as dynamic range goes, with 16 and 32 bit in DS you have more then you’ll ever know what to do with and at par with any grading tool out there ... the only advantage is when going straight from film since you are using the celluloid as source and not the crappy dynamic range of tape source (HD or SD).

I.

p.s. “Proper” secondary color correction would be something from Color Warper in flame/inferno, or Anvil’s Hue Correct, hey, I’d be happy with Shake’s Hue Curves ...




On 11/2/05 9:56 AM, "Jef Huey" <jhuey(at)henninger.com> wrote:

> What you are missing out on, at least compared to a DaVinci is ease of 
> operation and speed. The dedicated UI of the DaVinci and big hardware to 
> allow silky smooth (read no jumping on minute adjustments) broad range 
> (read always in 16 bit, maybe 24 bit space) and a job specific designed 
> control surface. And that goes for more than just the secondaries !!
>
> These are what the colorist here tell me. After color correcting a 
> handful of HD shows on the Nitris while waiting for our DaVinci 2K. They 
> won't come back.
>
> ;)
>
> Jef
>
> Ed Fraticelli wrote:
>
> > I have always wondered this: What is the difference between a “proper” 
> > secondary color corrector and the function provided by the “selective 
> > color correction” preset. Doesn’t a secondary color corrector 
> > selectively color correct a certain range of colors, without affected 
> > the others? If we renamed the “selective color corrector” preset to 
> > say “secondary color corrector”, would that fix the problem? What are 
> > we missing out on that other color correctors provide, as I have never 
> > used any others.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ed at PMI
> >
> > Pittsburgh, PA
> >
> > USA
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] *On 
> > Behalf Of *Boros, Igor
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:10 PM
> > *To:* DS_Forum
> > *Subject:* Re: secondary color correction
> >
> > There’s a pre-built effects tree preset in Image effects for secondary 
> > color correction, or you can build one yourself using a keyer to pull 
> > a matte of the desired color which you would use as a mask for color 
> > correction ... no “proper” secondaries in cc unfortunately.
> >
> >
> > I.
> >
> >
> > On 11/1/05 2:28 PM, "Mike Sullivan" <msullivan(at)bostonproductions.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > How do you all do this in DS? I need to pull the red out of a shot 
> > without affecting the other colors.
> >
> >
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