It is probably the same, but the difference that no custom size project will
give you a HD realtime proxy to work with. So you will have to work all
without the chance to realtime play to a monitor. Also render in 4K is
extremely slow compared to a 2K or HD one. So working with a HD proxy is
very handy. You can let the machine rendering in 4K overnight when you
finished. My advice, if you are going to work 4K, be careful with the
plugins you use, all is going to render OK in the HD proxy mode, but be sure
to watch a few frames of the full 4K render before go home. I had the bad
experience to hit memory limitations and get full garbage noise as a final
render.
Victor Wolansky
DS VFX Artist
WEBsite
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815 Slaters Lane
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of H.
Scott Randol
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:03 AM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: 2K / 4K workflow
Along those same lines...
Client is bringing in a 1080p/23.98 sequence to finish and needs it
output at 4K.
Is there any difference between doing a custom file size output in
the HD project and bringing that sequence into a 4K project and doing
the file export in there?
In my limited tests the results seem the same.
Scott
MAX Post
On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Jeff Douglas wrote:
> Victor is right. If your project has much size or complexity at
> all, you'll
> most likely hit memory limitations.
>
> Also, and a really important thing to get a good handle on, is that
> in 2K/4K
> you're most likely going to be dealing with log color space. I'm
> assuming
> that you're working at this rez in order to go back to film, so
> you'll need
> to be able to work closely with the people who do the scanning, the
> colorist, and the people who do the printing back to film in order
> to make
> sure that color stays consistent and correct.
>
>
> Jeff Douglas
> North By Northwest Productions
> jdouglas(at)nxnw.net
>
>
>
> On 11/11/05 5:18 AM, "Victor Wolansky" <victorw(at)NATMEDIA.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it handles 4K, only way to play is with a HD Proxy, you can
>> work all
>> with a HD Proxy and then render it a full res when you finished.
>> In my
>> experience, render time and response of the DS when you work the
>> 4K full
>> res. It is painfully slow. All depend what you are doing in 4K. If
>> you are
>> just conforming, or if you are compositing with several layers. I
>> found
>> some stuff that do not work OK at 4K and some times just render
>> garbage
>> because a memory limitation of the current OS. If your compositing
>> is a bit
>> complex, probably you are going to experiment some problems
>> because of the
>> memory limitation, Hope Ver 8 will handle it better.
>>
>>
>>
>> Victor Wolansky
>>
>> DS VFX Artist
>>
>> WEBsite <http://www.e3post.com/>
>>
>> Demo Reel <http://www.e3post.com/reels/victorreel.html>
>>
>> 815 Slaters Lane
>>
>> Alexandria. VA.
>>
>> 443-797-3507
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Tomio Iwasa
>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 6:17 AM
>> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
>> Subject: 2K / 4K workflow
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Most of our work has been on SD, and for the first time, we might
>> be getting
>> a project that would require editing in 2K or 4K.
>>
>> Yesterday, a client called in asking about the workflow, which
>> file format
>> the images should be in etc.
>> I didn't know the answers, but I did tell him that DS does handle
>> 2K and 4K.
>> I told him I'll get back to him once I find out.
>>
>> Does DS handle 4K ?
>>
>> Which file format should I have the client bring the images in.
>>
>> What are the project settings?
>>
>> Are there any other things that I need to be aware of?
>>
>> Are there any sample 2K or 4K images on the web, that I can
>> download and try
>> out the workflow ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I was told at NAB that the next DS (v8.0) would be 64bit and would
>> handle 2K
>> / 4K a lot better than the way it is now.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tomio
>>
>>
>
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