Re: 2K / 4K workflow

["H. Scott Randol" <srandol(at)maxpost.tv>]

Thanks Victor,

I was actually thinking I could finish the whole thing in a standard  
1080p/23.98 project and customize the frame size on output to file.  
That way I could see/play the sequence (in HD) and then export 4K.  
And yes the export is pretty slow.... Thanks for the tip about plug-ins!

Scott

On Nov 13, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Victor Wolansky wrote:

> It is probably the same, but the difference that no custom size  
> project will
> give you a HD realtime proxy to work with. So you will have to work  
> all
> without the chance to realtime play to a monitor. Also render in 4K is
> extremely slow compared to a 2K or HD one. So working with a HD  
> proxy is
> very handy. You can let the machine rendering in 4K overnight when you
> finished. My advice, if you are going to work 4K, be careful with the
> plugins you use, all is going to render OK in the HD proxy mode,  
> but be sure
> to watch a few frames of the full 4K render before go home. I had  
> the bad
> experience to hit memory limitations and get full garbage noise as  
> a final
> render.
>
>
>
> Victor Wolansky
> DS VFX Artist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On  
> Behalf Of H.
> Scott Randol
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:03 AM
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: 2K / 4K workflow
>
> Along those same lines...
>
> Client is bringing in a 1080p/23.98 sequence to finish and needs it
> output at 4K.
>
> Is there any difference between doing a custom file size output in
> the HD project and bringing that sequence into a 4K project and doing
> the file export in there?
>
> In my limited tests the results seem the same.
>
> Scott
> MAX Post
>
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Jeff Douglas wrote:
>
> > Victor is right.  If your project has much size or complexity at
> > all, you'll
> > most likely hit memory limitations.
> >
> > Also, and a really important thing to get a good handle on, is that
> > in 2K/4K
> > you're most likely going to be dealing with log color space.   I'm
> > assuming
> > that you're working at this rez in order to go back to film, so
> > you'll need
> > to be able to work closely with the people who do the scanning, the
> > colorist, and the people who do the printing back to film in order
> > to make
> > sure that color stays consistent and correct.
> >
> >
> > Jeff Douglas
> > North By Northwest Productions
> > jdouglas(at)nxnw.net
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/11/05 5:18 AM, "Victor Wolansky" <victorw(at)NATMEDIA.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, it handles 4K, only way to play is with a HD Proxy, you can
> > > work all
> > > with a HD Proxy and then render it a full res when you finished.
> > > In my
> > > experience, render time and response of the DS when you work the
> > > 4K full
> > > res. It is painfully slow. All depend what you are doing in 4K. If
> > > you are
> > > just conforming, or if you are compositing with several layers.  I
> > > found
> > > some stuff that do not work OK at 4K and some times just render
> > > garbage
> > > because a memory limitation of the current OS. If your compositing
> > > is a bit
> > > complex, probably you are going to experiment some problems
> > > because of the
> > > memory limitation, Hope Ver 8 will handle it better.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Victor Wolansky
> > >
> > > DS VFX Artist
> > >
> > > WEBsite <http://www.e3post.com/>
> > >
> > > Demo Reel <http://www.e3post.com/reels/victorreel.html>
> > >
> > > 815 Slaters Lane
> > >
> > > Alexandria. VA.
> > >
> > > 443-797-3507
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On
> > > Behalf Of
> > > Tomio Iwasa
> > > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 6:17 AM
> > > To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> > > Subject: 2K / 4K workflow
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Most of our work has been on SD, and for the first time, we might
> > > be getting
> > > a project that would require editing in 2K or 4K.
> > >
> > > Yesterday, a client called in asking about the workflow, which
> > > file format
> > > the images should be in etc.
> > > I didn't know the answers, but I did tell him that DS does handle
> > > 2K and 4K.
> > > I told him I'll get back to him once I find out.
> > >
> > > Does DS handle 4K ?
> > >
> > > Which file format should I have the client bring the images in.
> > >
> > > What are the project settings?
> > >
> > > Are there any other things that I need to be aware of?
> > >
> > > Are there any sample 2K or 4K images on the web, that I can
> > > download and try
> > > out the workflow ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was told at NAB that the next DS (v8.0) would be 64bit and would
> > > handle 2K
> > > / 4K a lot better than the way it is now.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Tomio
> >
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