Well, but I don?t think that the resize option of the output module will
have the same quality that a 4k project can have. And another question is
why the client need to print back to film at 4K if the original material is
only HD? less thank 2K... I think is a waste of time and resources. Unless
you really work in a 4K sequence creating titles or effects at 4K. And still
4K is a lot of resolution, most movies and films are only 2K
Victor Wolansky
DS VFX Artist
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of H.
Scott Randol
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 1:20 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: 2K / 4K workflow
Thanks Victor,
I was actually thinking I could finish the whole thing in a standard
1080p/23.98 project and customize the frame size on output to file.
That way I could see/play the sequence (in HD) and then export 4K.
And yes the export is pretty slow.... Thanks for the tip about plug-ins!
Scott
On Nov 13, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Victor Wolansky wrote:
> It is probably the same, but the difference that no custom size
> project will
> give you a HD realtime proxy to work with. So you will have to work
> all
> without the chance to realtime play to a monitor. Also render in 4K is
> extremely slow compared to a 2K or HD one. So working with a HD
> proxy is
> very handy. You can let the machine rendering in 4K overnight when you
> finished. My advice, if you are going to work 4K, be careful with the
> plugins you use, all is going to render OK in the HD proxy mode,
> but be sure
> to watch a few frames of the full 4K render before go home. I had
> the bad
> experience to hit memory limitations and get full garbage noise as
> a final
> render.
>
>
>
> Victor Wolansky
> DS VFX Artist
> WEBsite
> Demo Reel
> 815 Slaters Lane
> Alexandria. VA.
> 443-797-3507
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On
> Behalf Of H.
> Scott Randol
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:03 AM
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: 2K / 4K workflow
>
> Along those same lines...
>
> Client is bringing in a 1080p/23.98 sequence to finish and needs it
> output at 4K.
>
> Is there any difference between doing a custom file size output in
> the HD project and bringing that sequence into a 4K project and doing
> the file export in there?
>
> In my limited tests the results seem the same.
>
> Scott
> MAX Post
>
> On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Jeff Douglas wrote:
>
>> Victor is right. If your project has much size or complexity at
>> all, you'll
>> most likely hit memory limitations.
>>
>> Also, and a really important thing to get a good handle on, is that
>> in 2K/4K
>> you're most likely going to be dealing with log color space. I'm
>> assuming
>> that you're working at this rez in order to go back to film, so
>> you'll need
>> to be able to work closely with the people who do the scanning, the
>> colorist, and the people who do the printing back to film in order
>> to make
>> sure that color stays consistent and correct.
>>
>>
>> Jeff Douglas
>> North By Northwest Productions
>> jdouglas(at)nxnw.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/11/05 5:18 AM, "Victor Wolansky" <victorw(at)NATMEDIA.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, it handles 4K, only way to play is with a HD Proxy, you can
>>> work all
>>> with a HD Proxy and then render it a full res when you finished.
>>> In my
>>> experience, render time and response of the DS when you work the
>>> 4K full
>>> res. It is painfully slow. All depend what you are doing in 4K. If
>>> you are
>>> just conforming, or if you are compositing with several layers. I
>>> found
>>> some stuff that do not work OK at 4K and some times just render
>>> garbage
>>> because a memory limitation of the current OS. If your compositing
>>> is a bit
>>> complex, probably you are going to experiment some problems
>>> because of the
>>> memory limitation, Hope Ver 8 will handle it better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Victor Wolansky
>>>
>>> DS VFX Artist
>>>
>>> WEBsite <http://www.e3post.com/>
>>>
>>> Demo Reel <http://www.e3post.com/reels/victorreel.html>
>>>
>>> 815 Slaters Lane
>>>
>>> Alexandria. VA.
>>>
>>> 443-797-3507
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Tomio Iwasa
>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 6:17 AM
>>> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
>>> Subject: 2K / 4K workflow
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Most of our work has been on SD, and for the first time, we might
>>> be getting
>>> a project that would require editing in 2K or 4K.
>>>
>>> Yesterday, a client called in asking about the workflow, which
>>> file format
>>> the images should be in etc.
>>> I didn't know the answers, but I did tell him that DS does handle
>>> 2K and 4K.
>>> I told him I'll get back to him once I find out.
>>>
>>> Does DS handle 4K ?
>>>
>>> Which file format should I have the client bring the images in.
>>>
>>> What are the project settings?
>>>
>>> Are there any other things that I need to be aware of?
>>>
>>> Are there any sample 2K or 4K images on the web, that I can
>>> download and try
>>> out the workflow ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was told at NAB that the next DS (v8.0) would be 64bit and would
>>> handle 2K
>>> / 4K a lot better than the way it is now.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tomio
>>>
>>>
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