RE: DS Cracked [was: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]]

Date : Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:15:34 -0500
To : "'DS(at)Softimage.COM'" <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "Hollis, Mark (NBC Universal)" <Mark.Hollis(at)nbcuni.com>
Subject : RE: DS Cracked [was: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]]
I don't think we have any real worries at this point. I believe that Avid is a ways away from actually releasing a Symphony-Nitris. They're having pretty massive problems that relate to the operating system. Since the DS is completely tied to Windows, they're having considerable problems porting it to software that runs in an operating system that is not Windows.

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of
Chasteen, Howard
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:32 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: DS Cracked [was: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]]


This may seem a bit blunt but I would not even spend $20K on such a
system until we see if DS still exists as a distinct product after NAB
2006. Avid is staying completely silent on the subject.. We shall see. I
certainly hope that the DS brand and philosophy does not cease to exist.
A re-write of the system is OK but not if it loses its many good
distinctives.

H

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
Of Todd
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:17 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: DS Cracked [was: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]]

We've had this discussion before friends:

How many of you would buy a $10k 'software only' version of DS. Or even
a
$20k compositing station as a COMPLEMENT to DS? Basically a DS without a
Nitris BOB that could be used for compositing and cutting mattes etc.

Media would have to be ingested on the DS Nitris and would be shared the
same way RP media is shared. You wouldn't be able to do much with this
station without a DS Nitris as 'big brother' except with file based
material
which honestly DS ain't so compelling for...

I might even $30k if they included the HP workstation/video card combo.
Plus
for me I'd have to buy a Unity seat for each one I got...Avid could make
MORE MONEY from me AND MAKE ME HAPPIER AT THE SAME TIME...

Offer a $50k version with Audio/Video OUTPUT only and I'd buy that
too...

-Todd
Union

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
Of
> Marc Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 15:20
> To: 'DS(at)Softimage.COM'
> Subject: DS Cracked [was: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]]
>
> Theorectically speaking, of course, the DS, as with the Media
Composer,
> and
> Xpress, that you guys are discussing, would operate just fine witout
the
> hardware. The Hardware is not much more than an I/O box. All the
> processing
> is done in the CPU. True, how would you then get the clips into it,
> firewire? Not actice in DS software yet. MC and Xpress it is though.
You
> could firewire it. Or DVD/CD.
>
> Wouldn't it be the coolest things if you could buy a fully functional
> version of DS to run on laptops or other PCs, to say, offline,
conform, or
> composite? Then being able to save out your project, open it on the DS
> with
> Nitris hardware, and either recapture the media, render, and/or
output.
> Kind
> of, take on FCp where it really matters. (And I say FCP solely because
> that
> seems to be Avid's biggest competition right now.)
>
> I guess that would compete with Xpress pro and the lower end avid
> products,
> and we certainly don't want to muddle up the product line...(snicker
> snicker)
>
> Marc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chasteen, Howard [mailto:Howard.Chasteen(at)fotf.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:01 PM
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: RE: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]
>
> "And? Tell me, what are they gonna run it on?"
>
> Precisely one of the reasons that Avid always likes to sell some Avid
> branded and proprietary hardware as part of each high end system.
> Software is not good without the Nitris or Equinox eh?
>
> Purple boxes....little purple boxes. They're everywhere. They are
> everywhere!
>
> On the early DS systems the only thing you could not find direct from
the
> manufacturer was the dongle;-)  A very strong reason to leave the
older
> Mac
> based Avids behind and switch to the early SoftImage DS.
>
> Howard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
Of
> Tony Quinsee-Jover
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:22 AM
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: RE: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]
>
> "DS has been cracked"
>
> And? Tell me, what are they gonna run it on?
>
> T :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
Of
> Dom Q. Silverio
> Sent: 16 November 2005 17:10
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]
>
>
> Unfortunately, this is not the case.
> DS has been cracked - so has Lustre, Smoke, Media Composer, and many
more.
>
>
> Dom Q. Silverio
> editor
>
>
> >   At the very least, Apple could place the equivelant
> >   of a "dongle" into hardware on the motherboard. I
> >   don't see anyone reverse-engineering "dongles" so
> >   that they may run expensive applications like the DS
> >   or AutoCad on just any computer.
> >
> Dom Q. Silverio
> Editor
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