Re: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]

Date : Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:00:25 -0600
To : DS(at)Softimage.COM
From : Matt Riley <matt(at)thegreatplains.com>
Subject : Re: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]
Darwin is open, and Darwin is the foundation of OS X, but much of what makes OS X polished for end users is closed (Aqua, FairPlay DRM, etc.).

So, Apple still has all the means necessary to (attempt to) secure OS X so that it runs only on Apple-branded x86 hardware. The fact that the core is open doesn't mean the widget can't be secured.  :-)

-Matt



On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Hollis, Mark (NBC Universal) wrote:

Darwin is open source. Only the GUI part of OS X is closed. See:
 
 
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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of Matt Riley
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]

There's a fundamental difference here: Linux is open, so people can tinker with the source code to make it do what they want, so of course they are going to make disto. X run on hardware Y.

OS X is closed, so only Apple has access to some of the core functionality in it. Because of this, Apple can embed things into it such as hardware/security checks that will make OS X refuse to boot unless some special thingamadoo is present on the motherboard.

Will someone make something that emulates this security doo-dad? You betcha. Will someone hack OS X to make it NOT look for this on boot? Almost certainly. And Apple will revise the software and hardware to close the hole and someone will find another way in.

And so the game goes...

-Matt



On Nov 16, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Chasteen, Howard wrote:

Interesting.
There is almost always a way. Folks have been hacking various versions of Linux together on laptops for years. I am sure BSD was done and so it makes sense to see OS-X does it not?
 
Howard


From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Hollis, Mark (NBC Universal)
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'DS(at)Softimage.COM'
Subject: Apple on Intel [was Re: Poll]

Kai Schmerer did manage to get OS X for Intel running on a Toshiba laptop and reviewed the experience here: http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/os/0,39024180,39235916-6,00.htm I am positive that Apple is aware of this review and will take some definitive steps to prevent Apple's OS X's GUI from running on a generic pee cee again.

At the very least, Apple could place the equivelant of a "dongle" into hardware on the motherboard. I don't see anyone reverse-engineering "dongles" so that they may run expensive applications like the DS or AutoCad on just any computer.

Apple sees themselves as a hardware company. They do sell software but it is to promote their hardware.

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Victor Wolansky
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:54 PM
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Subject: RE: New Poll : Who really hate windows XP????


I will not be so sure... ;-)

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
Knut A. Helgeland
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:10 PM
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Subject: RE: New Poll : Who really hate windows XP????

At 17:12 -0500 15-11-05, Victor Wolansky wrote:
>I think if MAC opens the new OSX to the rest of the
>Intel community can be a big problem for Microsoft... Probably will force
>Microsoft to make thing better. What you think?

That's the one thing we know will never happen. You'll be free to run
XP/Linux on an Apple/Intel cpu, but you will NOT be able to run OSX
in anything but an Apple/Intel cpu.

K
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