Re: DS future ?

Date : Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:12:37 -0500
To : <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "Larry Schmitt" <LSchmitt(at)duart.com>
Subject : Re: DS future ?
"Other than a worrisome hunch, what substantial proof do we have that
anything is wrong long term?"

Avid's History for one. They sold out illusion, matador customers. Hardware
upgrade after upgrade, ABVB get the next best thing Meredian then DNA now
what..Left the MAC customers behind then had to pick them back up. Even
stopped developing symphony, The HD version is not much different that the
one I was using 7 years ago... Avid will come out with version 8 64bit but
as everyone has stated Avid is too far behind in 3D compositing to catch up
in one release. I just don't like the fact that the wish list is getting
longer and longer and results are getting less and less.Just my 2 cents



----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smith" <chris(at)sugarfilmproduction.com>
To: <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: DS future ?


> I'm a DS newb so maybe I'm out of line. But I don't see the sky
> falling.  There is no tangible proof that the DS has any bad future.
> Yeah, so they've been quiet except for Symphony.  To each system it's
> turn.  I feel in 6 months we'll be using DS 8 griping about what they
> forgot to add but carrying on happily with the DS.
>
> What is Avid's motivation to nix DS?  They sell tons of them.  From a
> biz POV I think Avid wants to keep Symp and DS rolling
> simultaneously.  I think if they canned DS there would be a mutiny
> FAR greater than this list can show.
>
> Other than a worrisome hunch, what substantial proof do we have that
> anything is wrong long term?
>
> Let the flamage commence.
>
> On Nov 29, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Ross Shain wrote:
>
> > Hey folks,
> > Its been a while for me, but thought I'd take a second add to all
> > the nonsense.
> >
> > I agree with Todd's post a few days ago about not wanting the
> > marketing spiel. I've been
> > waiting for someone to make the "stunning" announcement that DS is
> > being ported to 64 bit
> > and has a bright future as Avid's flagship DI product. This does
> > not mean much to me or the
> > majority DS sites that I know. Without addressing the core
> > compositing and gfx issues that
> > have been mentioned on the list thousands of times, DS has a bleak
> > future. What I don't
> > understand is how Tewks thinks they can "spin" DS as a DI system
> > while they have not really
> > allowed Montreal to work on necessary compositing features and
> > improvements. Maybe
> > they'd rather go after the future 'Lustre" market because its too
> > late to crack high end
> > finishing that involves in depth compositing.
> >
> > I've said this before but there was a time when I believed that DS
> > had a future as a
> > competitive high end finishing system and it seemed like the
> > product to allign myself with.
> > Now, to stay competitive I am forced to exit and open other
> > applications. Isn't that what
> > Symphony is all about?
> >
> > I'd really love to see Avid wake up but it seems like it is too
> > late. The developers have been
> > held back from being innovative and the "porting old sfw to new
> > hardware" game has been
> > played for far too long across all of their products. Ok - thats my
> > $ .02. Would love to be
> > convinced otherwise. For now back to my After Effects session...... ;)
> >
> > -Ross
> >
> >
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