Re: Linear?

[Jef Huey <jhuey(at)henninger.com>]

For those so interested, try to find the book, "Jump Cut!: Memoirs of a Pioneer Television Editor".

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786403454/qid=1133458755/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/002-9846921-0427251?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

The description of editing "Laugh In" each week will make your hair stand on end.

Jef



Hollis, Mark (NBC Universal) wrote:

I know of one company in NYC that does a lot of linear work. If you are reformatting a show for syndication, it is actually faster than using a nonlinear suite because you do not have to digitize-digital cut. It's like the difference between edited and live-to-tape.

 

There are also a lot of directors who do live TV who cannot deal with non-linear suites. They have to see everything rendered all of the time and scrubbing through a timeline just doesn't do it for them.

 

For the kind of creative work we all do, I'm sure non-linear is the present and the future. But some prefer the old-fashioned system. I spent a lot of time talking with a very talented filmmaker about how great nonlinear editing is as well as linear editing to get something out right away. He had a six-plate Steenbeck that he preferred over all because of the tactile feel of film. He was perfectly willing to pay the extra for processing and opticals. I gather he may have changed to some kind of Avid for editing now, due to costs and the fact that the optical and processing houses have begun to dissappear all together.

 

The resistence to change is something I admire at times, because of the years of knowledge and experience these people usually bring to the process. Up until recently, I could easily schmooze with editors at NBC who cut their teeth in film. They had gone from that to linear editing and through a number of versions of that, then finally to a Newscutter. While he didn't resist change, his wealth of knowledge and history of broadcasting was incredible. There was nothing he hadn't seen tried out on air. He was one of the few editors who traveled to many different locations to cut feature and news pieces to be fed by satellite.

 

I used 2" Quad machines as my first on-air playback and record devices during the time when 3/4" U-Matic was being refined. I saw the introduction of Panasonic's Recam, M-II, Sony's Betacam, Betacam-SP Ampex and Sony's 1" formats (including Type B!) and have followed the format wars since then. Those who came before me are to be admired. Even if they don't trust this new-fangled stuff.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:m_thomas7(at)comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 8:40 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: If not DS...

What sort of work goes into those rooms instead of nonlinear?, and why?

 

what sort of gear, back to 20 layers of digi-beta/D2 pre-read?

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Ranelli

To: DS(at)Softimage.COM

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:33 PM

Subject: RE: If not DS...

We have two.

 

;-)

 

JUDY

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:26 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: If not DS...

 

People still edit in linear suites?!?

 

1998 was my last time in a linear room, how many linear rooms out there are still going?

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Ranelli

To: DS(at)Softimage.COM

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:24 PM

Subject: RE: If not DS...

 

Hey, just make all the changes you want.  Then we'll ripple the list, hit auto-assemble, hide our eyes and pray.

 

;-)

 

What's funny is when I do edit in a linear suite, I'm reflexively looking for the 'save' button all of the time.

 

 

JUDY

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of Ken Sirulnick
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:18 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: If not DS...

 

I don't even want to get into H-Shifts.

 

KEN

----- Original Message -----

From: Murphy, Paul

 

To: DS(at)Softimage.COM

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:32 PM

Subject: RE: If not DS...

 

LOL - You got that right!!

 

That's how I punched a hole in a 1" master 15 years ago.  Young and cocky.  Now older and grumpy...err I mean wiser.  If I could only have an undo button for my life.

 

Murf

 

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From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Judy Ranelli
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 4:11 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: If not DS...

REAL editors don't preview!!!

 

;-)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of Paul Neal
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:06 PM
To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: If not DS...

 

That's called PREVIEW edit... :P

On 11/30/05, Ken Sirulnick <kennitris(at)glueedit.com> wrote:

No UNDO

----- Original Message -----

From: Marc Fisher

To: 'DS(at)Softimage.COM'

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:51 PM

Subject: RE: If not DS...

 

 i can deal with that. then again, a linear editor does none of these things, they just work when you push the button. no HAL errors, no rendering, or Drives error. or capturing...