Isn't all this the same as what I had written in the first place? If you
have a 30 sec spot, I needs to remain a 30 second spot, not 31,32,33, or 34.
The 4% increase does no good. He's using master tapes, and needs to re-purp
them for the US market (NTSC). They still need to be 30. So either way, he's
going to need to do a time warp which equals render time. Or go get a UFC
and do it that way.
Marc
> From: Bogdan Grigorescu <bogdan_grigorescu(at)yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: "DS(at)Softimage.COM" <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:57:17 -0800 (PST)
> To: "DS(at)Softimage.COM" <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
> Subject: RE: 1080 25p -> 24 or 59.94??
>
> As for Pitch shifter, you have one in the audio section of your DS Timewarp.
> Not sure about its quality, but it has all the tools.
> If you decide not to timewarp the video, you'll need only the pitch shift.
> If you do timewarp the video, then you'll need both duration change and
> pitch shift.
>
> Bogdan
>
> Scott Roy <Scott.Roy(at)seriousrobots.com> wrote: Bodgan,
>
> Thanks for the note. I'm confused as to why it would be 4% longer??
> Would you still need a timewarp then??
>
> And how are people dealing with the audio pitch?? Maybe a remix from
> protools??
>
> Im actually out today, but will be in tomorrow to iron this stuff
> out....Thanks for the help!!
>
> //s
>
>
>
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> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> Bogdan Grigorescu
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:23 PM
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: RE: 1080 25p -> 24 or 59.94??
>
>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> Graham's suggested workflow is the best as it does not introduce any picture
> artifacts(1 to 1 frame relationship) and it's real time from start to end.
> There are 2 downsides though, they may or may not affect you:
> -program duration is 4% longer
> -audio pitch will be lower(I would say noticeably)
>
> For your HD master, the deck doesn't need the PullDown board. But for the SD
> version you'll need it, unless you're happy with the DS downconverted
> output(lame at best).
>
> Bogdan
>
> Scott Roy <Scott.Roy(at)seriousrobots.com> wrote: Graham;
>
> Thanks for the info...we are getting the deck in today.....It's supposed
> to have all the bells and whistles...we'll check it out.....Looks like
> this might be a better solution and less render time.....as long as the
> deck can ! do it?? Should be in any minute now.......
>
> //s
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of gvision
> Sent: Wed 12/28/2005 4:43 PM
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: 1080 25p -> 24 or 59.94??
>
>
>
> Hi Scott the F500 will play the 25psf at 24 or 23.98. Set DS up to control
> the VT as a F500 23.98 and set the machine to play back 23.98.
> You can now capture at 23.98 no render you should be able to use the DS
> pulldown to create a 29.97 sequence if required.
> I have just done all be it with a D5 deck as far as I remember the F500
> does
> the same all though it will not do the pulldown to NTSC with out the
> option
> board fitted.
>
> Graham (from the Pal world)
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Roy"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:59 PM
> Subject: RE: 1080 25p -> 24 or 59.94??
>
>
> Marc;
> Thanks for the quick response.....Good info!! Just fyi, its a couple of tv
> commercials, not long form...so I think we'll do the timewarp
> trick!!.....Thanks again.......
>
> //s
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM on behalf of Marc Fisher
> Sent: Tue 12/27/2005 8:49 PM
> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: 1080 25p -> 24 or 59.94??
>
>
>
> You may be better off looking into a UFC (universal format converter) if
> you're company has the $$. Of course, only if its a long format.
>
> Or by all means, capture 25, note the FFOP to LFOP, start new 23.98
> sequence, drop in the 25fps seq to the 24seq and timewarp to the total run
> time. Pitch the audio (not sure of all the settings here) . Then do all
> your
> new edits in the 24 (23.98) universal format master sequence (get that?)
> and
> you'll be good to go for any other format you need to output to.
>
> Hope that helped.
>
> Marc
>
>
>> From: Scott Roy
>> Reply-To: "DS(at)Softimage.COM"
>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:47:58 -0500
>> To:
>> Conversation: 1080 25p -> 24 or 59.94??
>> Subject: 1080 25p -> 24 or 59.94??
>>
>> Hey All;
>>
>> I've got a couple of masters coming in that are finished in Europe at
>> 1080
> 25p
>> on the sony hdw 500....
>>
>> My question is:
>>
>> They now need these for US broadcast in HD and SD....Sooooo, would I be
> able
>> to do this in the deck out settings?? We will only have 1 HDW500 deck so
> the
>> Nitris will be used to ingest and output...Do I master in a 24p
> timeline....or
>> is the conversion to 59.94 better?? On past threads it was suggested to
>> digitize in a 25p timeline and timewarp to 24?? Anyone have any
> experience
>> doing this sort of thing?? And before it comes up...It's not just a
> straight
>> dub (never is), we need to re-edit and add new art cards to the end of
>> the
>> spots....
>>
>> Any help would be thankful.......Hope everyone had a good
>> break....didn't
> seem
>> like much!!
>>
>> Scott Roy
>> serious robots
>
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