chris-
I have a set procedure for how I remove/re-instate
3:2 pullown so that the clip ends up exactly as it was before.
the problem you’re having with clips
coming up short has to do with the way DS is re-applying the 3:2.
when you apply 3:2 expand, DS assumes the
first frame of your clip is an A-frame.
but, this may not be the case.
to be clear, I’m defining an A-frame
based on this sequence:
AA BB BC CD DD
so, the first frame of the clip should be
an AA and the last frame should be a DD [so that the cut happens between the AA
and DD]
if every cut in your sequence is a
separate clip, you may have to extend the head and tails to get them to an
A-frame.
I usually just drag the clip onto a
separate track, extend the head/tail to an A-frame, do my 3:2 contract/expand
and then plop the clip back into its original spot [or leave it on a separate
track to signify that it’s had GFX done to it]
then you step into the expand container,
apply whatever GFX etc. you’re gonna do and then step out and render on
frames.
for the work I do, I have to keep the 3:2 exactly
as it was so I *have* to follow
this procedure.
I’m sure it’s not essential in
many situations and extending the head/tail to make up whatever frames are lost
may be OK but I think it’s a good habit to get into.
hope that helps.
tony cacciarelli
From:
owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Gregory, Ryan
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006
10:37 AM
To: ds(at)softimage.com
Subject: Re: 3:2
Chris,
I always render Frames too :)
Once you contract, extend the end a couple frames, and that will solve the
falling short after expanding.
Hope this helps.
Ryan
On 1/5/06 1:32 PM, "Chris Smith" <chris(at)sugarfilmproduction.com>
wrote:
Thanks Ryan,
Still confused though. Here's my process / observations:
I have a "final edit". I select a clip. I add 3:2
contact. It creates a container. The container is now short in the
timeline. I then immediately add a 3:2 Expand. It lengthens back out, but
not to the full length it was. It comes a few frames short.
If I step in to the container. I'm at the true 24 (no half frames)
footage. This is good for me. Except I'm having to hunt down the
tiny area I was needing to work on. Inside the container is the entire
master clip.
side note. I always render in Frames. I don't like the look of
fields rendering on animation and I always want to work with whole frames
anyways. (like when I shoot and transfer at 30fps).
Thanks for any help.
Chris Smith
Partner/Film Director
Sugar Film Production
3699 McKinney #222
Dallas 75204
214.655.2662
http://www.sugarfilmproduction.com
On Jan 5, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Gregory, Ryan wrote:
Hi Chris,
When you apply the Contract Container, that becomes 24. If you step in,
it will be the 30fps material. After you apply the container that becomes your
clip. I usually put a cache on the container and set to frames, render. Then do
my work on that, render in frames, then expand and render that in fields.
Remember to park on the first “mixed” frame when you apply
the contract.
Good luck.
Ryan
On 1/5/06 12:55 PM, "Chris Smith" <chris(at)sugarfilmproduction.com>
wrote:
Normally I roll my cameras at 30fps to not deal with
pulldown issues. But I'm doing a cut from a job I shot at 24fps and it's
driving me crazy.
Questions about the 3:2 process:
1. The way I cut is not with subclips but just selects dragged to
the timeline. So when I add the 3:2 contract effect and it creates
the container, inside the container the clip seems to be the length of the
master clip. Do I need to always go chase down where my in/out points of
the top clip are? Or am I doing something wrong? I'd like to have a
short clip in an edit, apply a 3:2 contract and inside the container just see
the frames from the clip I'm working on.
2. Is it standard in a 24fps edit to do a 3:2 contract and expand
so that the sequence is always the same 3:2 sequence as opposed to a random one
based on how it was edited? Or do you only do a contract/expand on clips
that you need to do effects on?
Chris Smith
Partner/Film Director
Sugar Film Production
3699 McKinney #222
Dallas 75204
214.655.2662
http://www.sugarfilmproduction.com
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