Re: Sort of OT: PCI Slot

Date : Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:11:04 -0500
To : "ds(at)softimage.com" <DS(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "Gregory, Ryan" <Ryan.Gregory(at)bbdo.ca>
Subject : Re: Sort of OT: PCI Slot
That is actually what we are trying to do. I can't tell you 100%, but it
looks the same as ours. We have a 3Com Gibabit card too, and that is what I
want to replace with the combo, cause the only other slot is 4, which is no
good.
Ryan


On 1/9/06 5:04 PM, "Chasteen, Howard" <Howard.Chasteen(at)fotf.org> wrote:

> In that case I would try another slot. You might try slot 2 which is
> where we have our Gigabit if you have room. FYI here is our current
> config:
> 
> DS SD 7.6 Equinox
> 
> AGP Slot and Slot 1 = Wildcat 6210
> Slot 2 = 3Com Gigabit
> Slot 3 = Mykerinos
> Slot 4 = N/U
> Slot 5 = Equinox PCI
> Slot 6 = Adaptec Dual U160 SCSI host out to dual SCSI frame.
> 
> This works for us but it might not for HD!
> 
> Howard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
> Of Gregory, Ryan
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:54 PM
> To: ds(at)softimage.com
> Subject: Re: Sort of OT: PCI Slot
> 
> I do only want to use it to transfer files. I am always exporting
> quicktime
> files for making DVDs, and then I access the drive from my mac and
> transfer
> from there. Our network is to slow so this way is much quicker. I have
> been
> doing this with a shared folder on my projects drive, but there isn't a
> lot
> of room. That is the purpose of the external drive, but going USB1 makes
> it
> not worth the wait, so I don't use it. Our IT department is going to
> order a
> card for me tomorrow, and hopefully that will work.
> 
> Also, Mary Beth's point, I can't disable the card, because it will act
> as my
> ethernet card as well, and we all know what a missing network connection
> can
> do :) My internal ethernet is dead, hence the reason for the other one.
> 
> Thanks.
> Ryan
> 
> 
> On 1/9/06 4:36 PM, "Chasteen, Howard" <Howard.Chasteen(at)fotf.org> wrote:
> 
>> If you try to use the firewire combo card to digitize or for an
>> intensive application during a DS session I predict crashes,
> especially
>> if the firewire is 400 mb/s or higher. If you just want to move
> prepped
>> files between systems which is what we use our gigabit cards for then
> it
>> might be OK. I do not think the firewire could be used to digitize
>> during an active DS session.
>> 
>> The original tip I had on this came form a hardware guru in Montreal.
>> Hint...He is still there;-))
>> 
>> Would someone want to try that and give us their
>> results??????????????????
>> 
>> One problem is that the PCI busses in the W8000 are divided such that
>> you do not want resource intensive cards trying to share the same
>> portion.
>> 
>> Here is a wild idea from his honor P. Murphy. Has anyone installed
> Vegas
>> on their DS machine as a digitizing tool? Create a HD Quicktime file
>> using Vegas and them access it with DS? Now that might work with the
>> Firewire combo card. If you had trouble during DS you could always
>> disable the combo card which is easy to do. Anyone???????????
>> 
>> 
>> Howard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
>> Of Gregory, Ryan
>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:18 PM
>> To: ds(at)softimage.com
>> Subject: Re: Sort of OT: PCI Slot
>> 
>> Thanks Howard.
>> Here's what I got from that.  Sfdgsdfgkjasfdglkjhsdfg. :)
>> 
>> Well, not totally, but I'm not as "tecky" as lots of you out there
> are.
>> Upgrading is not really an option, so I'm stuck with Compaq. I get
> what
>> you
>> are saying that it just has too much going on to handle that extra
> card,
>> but
>> if I remove the ethernet card I am using and add an
>> Ethernet/USB2/Firewire
>> combo card, will that still be too much for it, or does it just have
> to
>> do
>> with how many slots it reads from?
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions, but I don't know much about this stuff.
> I'm
>> learning though.
>> Thanks.
>> Ryan
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/9/06 2:01 PM, "Chasteen, Howard" <Howard.Chasteen(at)fotf.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Compaq W000 Busses just do not have enough resources to handle
> the
>>> firewire card if you are already using much of the buss for Emulex,
>>> Adaptec, Atto, Gigabit and/or Equinox PCI. You could accomplish your
>>> goal buy moving to an XW8000 and observing the best slot usage and
>>> configuration. I have done this and it involves buying a new display
>>> card and possibly Audio card, knowing which drivers to use and lots
> of
>>> "insider" info. contact me off list if you are interested.
>>> 
>>> The real issue with data propagation on computer busses is the
>>> "reactance" of the circuit path taken by the buss. All wires and
>> traces
>>> have capacitance and inductance, both of which tend to distort square
>>> waves by "smoothing them". This is the effect that the capacitors in
>> an
>>> analog power supply have on the rectified voltage out of an AC
>>> transformer. They smooth the signal more toward the DC waveform.
>>> 
>>> Once a digital signal looses the sharply defined edge of its square
>> wave
>>> it may no longer be detected as a change of state when the signal
> goes
>>> from high to low etc. With today's ever decreasing "logic" voltages
> it
>>> is becoming very critical to maintain the sharpness of the signal.
>>> 
>>> Howard C.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-ds(at)Softimage.COM] On
> Behalf
>>> Of Benoit Melancon
>>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:39 AM
>>> To: DS(at)Softimage.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Sort of OT: PCI Slot
>>> 
>>> Hello Ryan,
>>> 
>>> PCI 4 slot on the Compaq has always been labeled "do not use" in the
>> DS
>>> ACSR class ever since I care to remember, with PCI 2 pointed as a
>> viable
>>> 
>>> alternative for cards such as the Emulex adapter if you wanted to
> plug
>>> the ol' MediArray storage to your DS at the same time as using the
>>> Adaptec or Atto card in the bottommost slot.
>>> 
>>> I'm afraid I don't have the technical explanation for that limitation
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Benoit
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gregory, Ryan wrote:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I am trying to put a firewire card into my DS. Compaq EVO W8000. I
>>> have an
>>>> external lacie drive I want to hook up through firewire since this
>> box
>>> is
>>>> only USB 1.0. The only available slot I have is the third from the
>>> bottom.
>>>> It fits fine and reads the drive, but my computer has been acting up
>>> ever
>>>> since adding it yesterday. Most of the time it happens when
> accessing
>>> our
>>>> network. This has happened before almost a year ago when the
> internal
>>>> ethernet card died and we had to install a new one. We had it in
> that
>>> slot
>>>> and were getting these problems, so we took out the firewire card
>> from
>>>> another slot and put the ethernet card there and it was fixed. We
>> left
>>> the
>>>> offending slot empty since I didn't need the firewire card then. I
>>> thought
>>>> it might be the card & the slot didn't mesh well, but this is now 2
>>> cards
>>>> that don't mesh with this slot. I have changed the IRQ settings to
>>> every
>>>> option and still no luck. Am I not supposed to use that slot, or
>> maybe
>>> it is
>>>> corrupt? I'm not much of a tech guy, but I thought if anyone has any
>>> insight
>>>> into this, it would be a big help.
>>>> 
>>>> If I missed anything info that is relevant let me know and I can try
>>> to give
>>>> you more.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks everyone.
>>>> Ryan
>>>> 
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