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Most important question in this entire upgrading madness is the
mentalray licensing, will a dualcore be "seen" as one CPU or will
eveybody need two extra licenses to get rendering on the two extra CPU's
that are on the dye.....

rob

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
Of Lee Hallett
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:24 PM
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: CPUs and XSI/mental ray...

OK, dumb question again - will the dual-core processors fit onto a
standard motherboard? So if I got e.g a dual processor motherboard with
2x single core processors, I could upgrade the procs to dual core at a
later date?

(PS are opterons the better choice for XSI?)


>Lee|3d animation and design..
>Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
>
There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that understand
binary, and those that don't.


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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
Of peterb
Sent: 22 June 2005 13:17
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: CPUs and XSI/mental ray...




> My bad - it's just the amd64 X2 there too, no sign of opteron dual 
> core.


Hm weird because the opterons were released Q2-05 , while the Amd64 X2
only Q3-05.

I have a retailer here that just has them in (the opterons), not UK
though...

I wonder what would be the way to go,
single opteron dual core now, and add a second one later, or dual
opteron single core now, and replace the whole bunch later. the dual
core cpu costs about the triple of a single core with same clock
speed...

I'm mostly interested in rendering performance.


 On 6/22/05, Alan Jones <skyphyr(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Overclockers.co.uk are saying they should have them in on the 24th 
> > June (I'm sorting a new PC at the moment and trying to decide 
> > whether to splurge or not...)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On 6/21/05, Lee Hallett <lee.hallett(at)bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cheers Brad - what's the availabillity of dual core like at the
moment? I
> > > thought they weren't readily available for a while?
> > >
> > > Cheers for the tips on cache (and it's relative importance) and 
> > > the
memory
> > > controller issues on dual procs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lee|3d animation and design..
> > >
> > > Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
> > >
> > > There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that 
> > > understand binary, and those that don't.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  *       BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House|
Llandaff,
> > > Cardiff. CF5 2QY.
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
Behalf Of
> > > Brad Friedman
> > > Sent: 21 June 2005 14:19
> > > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > Subject: Re: CPUs and XSI/mental ray...
> > >
> > > The larger the cache, the better.  Especially for rendering.  A 
> > > larger
cache
> > > means more rendering binary code can live closer to the CPU along 
> > > with
more
> > > data.  Since rendering is such a repetitive process, cache is very

> > > important.  It keeps one from taking too many memory access
performance
> > > hits.
> > >
> > > I have seen nothing but stunning benchmark results for AMD Dual 
> > > Core
chips.
> > >
> > > As far as motherboards go, when it comes to AMD opteron dual proc
systems,
> > > there are two main types:
> > >
> > > 1) The type in which a single memory controller is shared between 
> > > the
CPUs
> > > (in which case one CPU has slower memory access due to using a 
> > > hypertransport pipe to get access to main memory)
> > >
> > > 2) The type in which each CPU has its own dedicated memory 
> > > controller.
This
> > > is faster.
> > >
> > > The introduction of dual core opterons will make for a frightening
machine
> > > for certain, with four cores spread over two CPUs.  Though, with 
> > > the uncertainty of mental ray licensing on dual cores... I don't 
> > > know how
that
> > > works out with regards to $$.  Anyone know if mental images ever 
> > > got
around
> > > to telling us how licensing will be affected by dual core chips?
> > >
> > > -brad
> > >
> > > Lee Hallett wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Very basic question: given the currently available hardware, 
> > > what's
the best
> > > processor for a kick-ass XSI/mental ray workstation? Any noteable 
> > > considerations (Cache/motherboards etc)
> > >
> > > *sorry, I know this should go to the hardware list, but the 
> > > reponse is always minimal!*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lee|3d animation and design..
> > >
> > > Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
> > >
> > > There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that 
> > > understand binary, and those that don't.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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