RE: resize node in FX tree (crop)

Date : Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:28:11 -0400
To : <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "Luc-Eric Rousseau" <lucer(at)Softimage.COM>
Subject : RE: resize node in FX tree (crop)
If I'm not mistaken that's not the same thing at all, it's more of a design issue with Crop.  You're cropping from the left side of the image, the result of which is that the image starts at position 50 in the virtual space.  Basically, you could say the illusion crop node adds a letterbox, it does not crop images like resizing the canvas in Photoshop.  It's unintuitive and in a future version we're replace it with a node that works more natural, which simply means having like Shake a 2D offset parameter which by default is linked to the left/bottom of the crop.

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Luc-Eric Rousseau
Team Leader, User Interface
Softimage|XSI
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM 
> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Sylvain Moreau
> Posted At: Friday, September 30, 2005 4:28 PM
> Posted To: xsi
> Conversation: resize node in FX tree (crop)
> Subject: Re: resize node in FX tree (crop)
> 
> 
> Yep,  there is still a problem in V5
> 
> Try using absolute pixel size = 720*486, it will give you a 
> render of 720*487.
> I did an HD job last week and I also delivered a rescale D1 
> NTSC croped version. My D1 was 720*487... original but a bit 
> embarassing...
> 
> Anyway, here is another one I find much more annoying
> 
> Try that:
> - load any pic
> - crop 50 pixels right and left (the preview is ok)
> - render (the render is not ok, you get 50 pixels of black on 
> the left)
> 
> You can work around it using an extra "Transorm 3D" node but 
> It is quite inconvenient and not WYSIWYG, it does look like a bug
> 
> Here is the script (you need to load your own pic) 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AddFxOp "FxTree", "Crop"
> AddFxOp "FxTree", "File Output"
> SetFxOpPos "FxTree.FileOutput", 216, 342 SetFxOpPos 
> "FxTree.Crop", 214, 242 ConnectFxOp "FxTree.FileIn", 
> "FxTree.Crop", "1"
> ConnectFxOp "FxTree.Crop", "FxTree.FileOutput", "1"
> SetPaintStore "FxTree.FileIn"
> SetValue "FxTree.FileIn.FileName", "YOURPIC.pic"
> SetPaintStore "FxTree.Crop"
> SetValue "FxTree.Crop.OutputCropRectangle.Left", 50 SetValue 
> "FxTree.Crop.OutputCropRectangle.Right", 670 SetPaintStore 
> "FxTree.FileOutput"
> SetValue "FxTree.FileOutput.EndFrame", 1 RenderFxOp 
> "FxTree.FileOutput"
> SetValue "FxTree.FileOutput.LaunchFlipbook", False Flipbook 
> "" & Chr(34) & "YOURCOMP.pic" & Chr(34) & " 1 1 1 29.970030"
> Copy
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> syl
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kris Rivel
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: resize node in FX tree
> 
> 
> I tried but it still doesn't seem right....what are your 
> exact settings?
> 
> Kris
> 
> Michael Klein wrote:
> Did you also checked Apply Crop in Output Crop [720 486]?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM 
> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of 
> Kris Rivel
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:52 PM
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: resize node in FX tree
> 
> 
> Transform3d doesn't work I don't think.  How do you set it to 
> 720x486?  I 
> tried adjusting the y scale to a value of .8 which it says is 
> 720x486 but 
> clearly its now too squashed.
> 
> Kris
> 
> Michael Klein wrote:
> So what is the result at the end when you go through Resize 
> or Transform3D?
> Do you get visual problems, fragments or is the color depth 
> of the original
> input messed up?
> 
> When I try here I don't see any problems I know from Tint here ...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM 
> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> Kris Rivel
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 6:25 PM
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: resize node in FX tree
> 
> 
> No floating support unfortunately.
> 
> Kris
> 
> Oscar Juárez wrote:
> 
> 
> Talking about that... it doesnt handle floating point images right?
> i loaded an hdr image resized it and boom i had an ldr.
> 
> am i right or im missing something.
> 
> sorry to hijack the thread. v 4.2 btw
> 
> Oscar
> 
> 
> Michael Klein wrote:
> 
> 
> Tried to use Transform3D instead?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
> Behalf Of Kris Rivel
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:22 PM
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: resize node in FX tree
> 
> 
> Any chance the resize node in the FX Tree could be fixed!!!  That
> thing is
> driving us nuts for the past few versions of XSI.
> 
> Kris
> 
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