Re: [XSI 5.0.1 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final Gathering active.

["Andrea Padovan" <xsi(at)fastwebnet.it>]

Hi Bernard,

We still don't know if this is an XSI problem or XP problem....

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernard Lebel" <3dbernard(at)gmail.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0.1 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final Gathering 
active.


> Isn't that issue fixed in XSI 5.0.1?
>
>
> Bernard
>
>
>
> On 11/3/05, Andrea Padovan <xsi(at)fastwebnet.it> wrote:
> > I Found the problem about crash!
> > Thanks very very very a lot to James DeColling that sent me your setting
> > using Asian Languages.
> > Hey Man TTHHAANNKKK YYYYOOOUUUU!
> >
> > Ok, this is a workaround to my problem.
> > If you want to use XSI without problems and to able also able to write 
> > text
> > in Japanse with a Japanse Keyboard,
> > make sure that in "Text Services and Input Languages" property inside
> > "Default input language" group,
> >
> > BE SET TO "English (United States) - Japanese" ( or others, the important
> > think is that have to be English ).
> > NEVER "Japanese - Microsoft IME standard 2002 ver. 8.1"
> > NEVER "Japanese - Microsoft Natural Input 2002 ver. 8.1"
> >
> > So now I would like to know...
> > What is it ?? XSI Bug or XP Bug ??
> >
> > God, now I can have a party with lots of Nihon gilrs and a river of beer! 
> > :D
> > Thanks for tips about 4GB ram, I'll try with some test...
> >
> > アンドレア　パドヴァン
> > Andrea Padovan
> >
> > Tool Designer (at)
> > SEGA CORPORATION
> > AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
> > AM R&D Div.
> > http://www.sega.co.jp/
> > Blr. Founder
> > http://www.borderliner.it
> > Actually located in Tokyo Japan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sandy Sutherland" <sandy(at)refinery.co.za>
> > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 3:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0.1 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final Gathering
> > active.
> >
> >
> > > Well to be perfectly honest here - in my experience, the /3B switch 
> > > allows
> > > you to go from about 1.3 - 1.8 GB without crashing!  Although XSI has 
> > > got
> > > better and better - V5.01 is MUCH better!  I have had renders somehow
> > render
> > > using 2.3 GB - but others fall over at 1.8!!
> > >
> > > S.
> > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Sandy Sutherland  Digital Doodeller - TD
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> > > mailto:sandy(at)refinery.co.za
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> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Wayne Williams" <w1343(at)comcast.net>
> > > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0.1 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final Gathering
> > > active.
> > >
> > >
> > >>I believe it the 3gb switch you set in the boot.ini file you're talking
> > >> about Stefan. From what I hear win32 only allows the user to access 
> > >> 2gig
> > >> of
> > >> ram on a per application basis. The switch boosts that to 3...but not
> > more
> > >> than that I don't think. Definitly make a backup of your .ini as you 
> > >> can
> > >> royally fook your box and have it non booting if done incorrectly.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Stefan Andersson" <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
> > >> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:51 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0.1 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final 
> > >> Gathering
> > >> active.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> It might be the Quadro card that is messing it up and the dual 
> > >>> monitor
> > >>> setup. Once you start working with dual monitors I've found that XSI
> > >>> is much more instable (don't know with 5.0 yet since it's new). I'm 
> > >>> no
> > >>> engineer, but I would think it's a OpenGL issue when you have two
> > >>> monitors... software or hardware... don't know.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, my suggestions would be to test it with only one monitor hooked 
> > >>> up
> > >>> and also uninstall all those asian text things.
> > >>>
> > >>> And that 4GB of ram thing, do you have that switch in XP set to 4GB? 
> > >>> I
> > >>> don't have that much ram myself, but I've read somewhere that you 
> > >>> need
> > >>> to set a switch in XP in order to get all the ram recognized.
> > >>>
> > >>> I hope it helps, and good luck dude
> > >>>
> > >>> regards
> > >>> stefan andersson
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 11/2/05, Andrea Padovan <xsi(at)fastwebnet.it> wrote:
> > >>> > I'm going mad, I just sent mail to support...
> > >>> > The problem is that is difficult to understand, is a torture... :(
> > >>> > Thanks again for your time Stefan.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> > From: "Stefan Andersson" <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
> > >>> > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:11 PM
> > >>> > Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0.1 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final
> > Gathering
> > >>> > active.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > also try without having dual monitors... don't know why it would
> > help
> > >>> > > but it might.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > /stefan
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On 11/2/05, Andrea Padovan <xsi(at)fastwebnet.it> wrote:
> > >>> > >> Grazie Raffa,
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> So, maybe the problem could be Installed files for East Asian
> > >>> > >> langiages...
> > >>> > >> I'll try to uninstall...
> > >>> > >> Thx in advance.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Andrea
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> > >> From: "Raffaele Fragapane" <jaco(at)thejaco.com>
> > >>> > >> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:05 PM
> > >>> > >> Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0.1 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final
> > >> Gathering
> > >>> > >> active.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> > Ciao Andrea,
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > can confirm what Stefan said, doesn't happen here, and I 
> > >>> > >> > haven't
> > >> even
> > >>> > >> > installed 5.01 yet.
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > ******************************
> > >>> > >> > |     Raffaele Fragapane       |
> > >>> > >> > |     Rising Sun Pictures      |
> > >>> > >> > | "Remember, TD is for TopDog" |
> > >>> > >> > ******************************
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> > Andrea Padovan wrote:
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >> Hi people,
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> I just installed XSI 5.0.1 but I hade same problem.
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> My configuration:
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> HP Workstation xw4200
> > >>> > >> >> P4 3.60GHz
> > >>> > >> >> 4GB Ram (Windows 32 show me 3.25GB :(at) )
> > >>> > >> >> WindowsXP 32bit SP2
> > >>> > >> >> NVIDIA Quadro FX 1400 PCI Express x16
> > >>> > >> >> Bios version 5.41.02.17.24
> > >>> > >> >> Drivers version 77.82
> > >>> > >> >> Double monitor.
> > >>> > >> >> Supplemental language support
> > >>> > >> >> Installed files for complex script and right-to-left 
> > >>> > >> >> lenguages
> > >>> > >> >> (including Thai)
> > >>> > >> >> Installed files for East Asian langiages
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> I really don't know what to think I'm drained of energy...
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> Andrea
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrea Padovan"
> > >>> > >> >> <xsi(at)fastwebnet.it>
> > >>> > >> >> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >>> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:23 PM
> > >>> > >> >> Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final
> > >> Gathering
> > >>> > >> >> active.
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >>> Thank you very very much!!!
> > >>> > >> >>> I not install 5.0.1 yet, I'm tried all day...
> > >>> > >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >>> ありがと！！！
> > >>> > >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Andersson"
> > >>> > >> >>> <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
> > >>> > >> >>> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >>> > >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:15 PM
> > >>> > >> >>> Subject: Re: [XSI 5.0 CRASH] Baking Illumination with Final
> > >> Gathering
> > >>> > >> >>> active.
> > >>> > >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >>>> Hi Andrea,
> > >>> > >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>> No problems here, I tested it with the new 5.0.1 and
> > everything
> > >>> > >> >>>> worked
> > >>> > >> >>>> fine. my install is
> > >>> > >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>> WindowsXP 32Bit, Athlon64 3500+, Geforce 6800GT, XSI 5.0.1
> > >>> > >> >>>> 32Bit
> > >>> > >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>> best regards
> > >>> > >> >>>> stefan andersson
> > >>> > >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>> On 11/1/05, Andrea Padovan <xsi(at)fastwebnet.it> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Hi people,
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>> before to send mail at Softimage support, I would like to 
> > >>> > >> >>>>> ask
> > >> if
> > >>> > >> >>>>> some people
> > >>> > >> >>>>> have my same problem baking
> > >>> > >> >>>>> illumination FG illumination in a Vertex Color suppor. I'm
> > >> going
> > >>> > >> >>>>> mad for to
> > >>> > >> >>>>> understand what could be the problem.
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Please try to run these lines on script editor...
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>> NewScene
> > >>> > >> >>>>> CreatePrim "Grid", "MeshSurface"
> > >>> > >> >>>>> CreatePrim "Cube", "MeshSurface"
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetValue "cube.cube.length", 1
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SelectObj "grid", , True
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Translate , 0, -0.576378135990722, 0, siRelative, siView,
> > >> siObj,
> > >>> > >> >>>>> siXYZ, , ,
> > >>> > >> >>>>> , , , , , , , 0
> > >>> > >> >>>>> ApplyShader "Material\Constant", , , ,
> > >> siLetLocalMaterialsOverlap
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetValue "grid.Material.Constant.color.red",
> > 0.925
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetValue
> > "grid.Material.Constant.color.green", 0.475
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetValue
> > "grid.Material.Constant.color.blue", 0.475
> > >>> > >> >>>>> ActivateObjectSelTool
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SelectObj "cube", , True
> > >>> > >> >>>>> ActivateObjectSelTool
> > >>> > >> >>>>> ApplyShader , , , , siLetLocalMaterialsOverlap
> > >>> > >> >>>>> AddProp "RenderMap"
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetValue
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > "Passes.Default_Pass.RenderOptions.EnableFinalGather", True
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetValue "cube.RenderMap.maptype", 1
> > >>> > >> >>>>> CreateVertexColorSupport , "Vertex_Color", "cube"
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetInstanceDataValue , "cube.RenderMap.cav", 
> > >>> > >> >>>>> "Vertex_Color"
> > >>> > >> >>>>> RegenerateMaps "cube.RenderMap"
> > >>> > >> >>>>> DeselectAll
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SetDisplayMode "Camera", "constant"
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>> XSI will crash.
> > >>> > >> >>>>> If you try to subdivide cube with 24 steps in U V and 
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Base,
> > >>> > >> >>>>> XSI
> > >>> > >> >>>>> doesn't
> > >>> > >> >>>>> crash.
> > >>> > >> >>>>> It happens only while backing VertexColor, not with
> > >>> > >> >>>>> RenderMaps.
> > >>> > >> >>>>> I already found a workaround, but I would like to know how 
> > >>> > >> >>>>> to
> > >> avoid
> > >>> > >> >>>>> crash...
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Some pople had this problem ? XSI Bug ?
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Really thanks for any interest.
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>> アンドレア　パドヴァン
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Andrea Padovan
> > >>> > >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Tool Designer (at)
> > >>> > >> >>>>> SEGA CORPORATION
> > >>> > >> >>>>> AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
> > >>> > >> >>>>> AM R&D Div.
> > >>> > >> >>>>> http://www.sega.co.jp/
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Blr. Founder
> > >>> > >> >>>>> http://www.borderliner.it
> > >>> > >> >>>>> Actually located in Tokyo Japan
> > >>> > >> >>>>
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