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It's not hard to learn or work with. It's just that Shake is easier,
especially for complicated stuff.
Fusion is still lightyears ahead of Toxik in easiness.
kim aldis wrote:
I'm surprised people aren't finding Fusion easy, I found it really logical
and simple.
It's worth pointing out that Fusion 5 will take After Effects plugins.
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[mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Andre DeAngelis
Sent: 27-January-2006 16:49
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: OT: Digital Fusion v Shake
I think Fusion has actually shown it is more flexible
architecturally than shake, especially when you consider the
3D implemtation in both applications. Shake is really a 2.5D
implementation whereas DF 5 has a pretty comprehensive
implementation. Importing fully animated 3D meshes into DF5
is very handy, whereas I cannot see this happening any time
soon in Shake.
I have used both,on and off, since they were released on Windows. I
can't say I find one or the other easier or harder to use,
but I find Shake's workflow nicer. Some of the tools seem
more refined, but then again, there are missng features.
I agree that for the time being, DF is a not a Shake killer,
so much as a replacement. Toxic doesn't appear anywhere near
ready to compete, andthe development sine v 1.0 was released
has been anything but stellar. They really have to rethink
the packaging of it to make it a success. Shake was rappidly
accepted because it was freely avalable for 30 day trial
periods from day 1. Autodesk seem to be adopting the
opposite approach, by keeping anyone but big name account at
an arms distance. Maybe this is because the product is not a
standalone single seat app, and too dependent on a database
backbone to be useable.
Nuke has some impressive specs, but the UI is just a complete turnoff.
The guys at DD, or people who've worked there and used it,
swear by it, but I have not heard any entusiasm about it from
anywhere else.
A
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From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
[mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Francois Lord
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:19 AM
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: OT: Digital Fusion v Shake
Here, we use Shake a lot and we love it. But as Kim said,
it's no longer available on windows and because of that, we
have to make a choice and switch to another software. We have
delayed this switch as long as possible because nothing was
as good as Shake. Things have changed recently when Fusion 5
got out. We had a private demo and a seminar on it and we
were impressed. It has more features than Shake. But it's not
as easy to learn. Shake is simple, very very simple.
We felt that Fusion is a Shake replacement, not a Shake
killer. And because of that, we have chosen to wait a little
more. Toxik 2.0 might be good (v1.1 really isn't ready).
I remember when Maya got out and we were still stuck on
Softimage|3D. We prefered to wait for XSI because we thought
Softimage would do something cool for the new generation.
When XSI 1.0 got out, it was simply unusable in production.
We waited for 1.5, and it was still unusable for medium to
big production. Then we thought "Maybe we should switch to
Maya". But we waited more. And today... boy am I glad to have waited.
Well I think it's the same thing with Toxik. If v2.0 looks
good and promising, you can bet it will rock in two years and
I wouldn't want to be stuck with that 15 years old software
(don't get me wrong, Fusion is good, but it shows its age).
On the other hand, if Toxik becomes too much like its cousins
Flint,Flame,Inferno, then we will have been waiting for
nothing and wasted time on a old version of Shake on Windows
while Fusion got way better.
That's our current state of mind.
And we're thinking that we should give another look at Nuke.
Three years ago it was very good, I suspect it got better.
Jonathan Ridge wrote:
Hi folks.
Just wondering how Digital Fusion measures up to Shake.
Having seen
some brief tutorials of Digital Fusion, it seemed pretty impressive.
Having said that, I've not seen Shake in action yet - I'm
downloading
a demo to try it out and was hoping someone could shed a
little light
on the pros and cons of these two compositors.
Thanks.
Jonny.
www.jonny3d.com
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