Re: setting up propmodels for referencing

["Tim Leydecker" <BauerOink(at)gmx.de>]

> I'm not extremely aware of the workings of references in Maya, but in
> XSI, references are not exactly meant or intended to be added layers
> of edits.

I haven´t used references really neither in Maya nor in XSI, mostly because
I´d usually model seperate snippets but don´t do much animation or heavy
scenes, that´s why I need to poke you with questions...

> Btw, one question: why do you need to *merge* everything? Any reason
> specifically? I'd be very interested in your workflow.

Keep in mind what I do is not top of the line stuff. More or less it´s just
trying to get along. I switched to XSI for modeling, have characteranimation
and proxysets in Maya and want to merge the plotted animation with the
highrezset(s) for rendering in XSI. The plotted animation gets pretty heavy
to work with, but I still gain a speedimprovement when setting up shading
and layers in XSI.

Due to the layout of the indoorsets and the way light is shed it would be
favourable to have everything in one scene and knock out as many layers
as possible from that. Adjustmentlayers for shadows, reflections and rims.

Basically, it´s just a guy on a stretcher, reflecting in the sourrounding 
and
being lit by rotating volumetric lights casting the key lights (with 
shards).

Althought it´s not advisable I currently model the various elements in one
scene, trying to sync everything to the scale of the character, his 
proportions.

To get an idea of the mood, I´ll also do draft lit renderings now and then
and had hoped I could swap out finished props with references, refine
shading once in a while and simply use the latest version of a shader for
each prop (by importing a preset) when assembling the masterscene to
be broken up into shots (and layers). I´ll skip referencing now until later.

I play around alot with light, poking around until I like the picture or 
mood,
even thought it may not add to the output directly - it helps me grasping 
XSI.

http://www.hafenlola.com/downloads/buddy_noir.jpg

http://www.hafenlola.com/downloads/buddy_candybared.jpg


Cheers

tim


P.S: As I said, it´s not quite top-notch yet...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernard Lebel" <3dbernard(at)gmail.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: setting up propmodels for referencing


> > I expect to add detail based on individual shots, checked my workflow
> > again and decided that I will better have one (backround)scene including
> > everything (~35 MB data), render the camera draft and do the animations
> > with the backround as rotoscopeplate(s), when satisfied, merge everything
> > and break it up into layers for rendering. This way I can also mix Maya 
> > and
> > XSI renderings in progress easily and save the I/O overhead and 
> > diskspace.
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I'm not extremely aware of the workings of references in Maya, but in
> XSI, references are not exactly meant or intended to be added layers
> of edits. Most of references models attributes are locked, which means
> you can only  modify them through overrides and similar forced
> inheritance device. As far as my experience goes, it is tricky to
> modify heavily a reference model. Instead you are better to export the
> reference model with the modifications in it.
>
> Btw, one question: why do you need to *merge* everything? Any reason
> specifically? I'd be very interested in your workflow.
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Bernard
>
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