Re: Isolate - Anyone else prefer the old way too?

[Guy Rabiller <guy(at)alamaison.fr>]

Hey Andre, Raffaele

I guess there was a beta testing phase.

Only.. beta testing is now reserved for "premium" support members only ( 
or something like that ) so I guess a lot of old beta members - 
apparently including yourself, but also ourselves among others - 
vanished in last beta cycle(s). I'm not saying we are especialy 
'valuable' but this certainly reduces the beta participants count.

Plus the fact that Softimage now has to support Face|Robot with a 
significant amount of resources ( the least they can do with a product 
of such price range )..

I'm starting to worry about how XSI will evolve.

--
guy rabiller | 3d technical director (at) LaMaison



Andre DeAngelis a écrit :
> I guess thse results are innevitable when a release bypasses the beta
> testing phase.
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 4:41 AM
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> Subject: Re: Isolate - Anyone else prefer the old way too?
>
> yeah, but you shouldn't work your way around the default interface
> behaviour.
>
> there's a number of flaws in this new viewport top bar re-design which
> are clearly tabletop decisions and not driven by requests or by
> experienced users feedback.
> A few examples:
>
> -display options are now stored in the middleclick buffer ONLY for the
> shape viewer, where to check topology work AND shading without wire
> comfortably all you want really is for it to work like all other
> viewports.
> If you call up your display options in the shape manager then you'll
> have to manually select shaded and hidden line again to restore your
> middleclick toggle proper functionality.
> who in their right state of mind would prefer only the shape manager to
> call up the display options again and again after a middle click?
> it's an inconsistancy and a design flaw.
>
> -shape manager is the only viewport that doesn't have the new headlight
> toggle, and one of the viewports where it's most necessary when doing
> sculpting work
>
> -headlight and wireframe on shaded toggles are nice, but not middle
> click sensitive in ANY viewport
>
> -object view cameras are still randomly designed at best.
> setting one to ortho and then using the XYZ buttons to turn something on
> and off will reset the state of that camera (probably because cameras
> are created and destroyed on the fly for such windows), requiring
> constant checks to make sure you're in the right state.
>
> -center selection by default is, like many other things, on a shortcut
> based on semantycs (Alt C for center), instead of being on one based on
> quick interaction (which is the point of learning shortcuts).
>
> -viewports interacting with how you manipulate the scene graph (like the
> shape manager automatically switching you to shape modelling mode)
> making mistakes that are potentially unforgiving and disastrous very
> easy.
>
> -operators like envelope and shapes warn you about being in the wrong
> operational mode, but others like an extrude don't
>
> -parts of the interface setting themselves into whatever state they like
> without reason to do so (show affected points)
>
> -window states not being preserved on save (object view, shape manager
> and some other things here and there)
>
> -important parts of the app being absolutely un-mantained (FXview still
> loosing its focus and caching if you minimize it)
>
> -fundamental windows still stuck in '87 (clip viewer)
>
> -new functional parts of the interface not compliant to the interaction
> scheme of everything else (construction mode bar and pass bar on the top
> not being middle click sensitive)
>
> -layout state (tabs etc.) not being saved with the scene (will default
> to the first tab of every frameset)
>
> -things left behind because of gross oversights, some of them even after
> they had been reported (layer bar in the MCP doesn't have a tear off
> while all others do)
>
> -regressions in interaction (right clicking in a viewport on the second
> monitor on linux will always pop up on the first monitor, not the case
> in 4.2)
>
> -ATROCIOUSLY BAD regressions in stability in the frameset (opening 2 5.1
> and tabbing between them in linux has a 20% random chance of KILLING,
> not crashing, the one that falls in the background)
>
> -caching and visualization mechanisms that should be purely based on
> user comfort are being based on performance with a way too violent zeal
> for lazy eval (lag when getting a shape slider in shape editor/animate
> tab out of a 0 state, you have to be careful while jocking it to not hit
> 0, while it should clearly not be dumped off until ANOTHER slider gets
> pulled up)
>
> -new tools that are nothing short of spectacular revealing architectural
> weaknesses (tweak tool that spanks anything else ever done out of the
> water, but... it screws with your selections)
>
> -shortcut schemes and defaults that are only half way there (tweak tool
> using J and L very smartly, but not taking control of K in that mode,
> and yet K not always keframing in such mode, creating a gap in your
> posture and neglecting having a set of three keys that will also
> comprehend the first of the three options in the tweak tools icons)
>
> -PPGs that get little to none of the necessary face lift (no collapsible
> tabs ala lists of a group in a PPG, which means if you dock a display
> options you only need headlight and wireframe visibility options for in
> a frame that's not tall enough, you can't collapse things smartly, and
> you're pursuing a residence in scrolling hell
>
> -lack of taking advantage of platform niceties (middle click between Xor
> windows and XSI still not supported and copy&paste across windows other
> then XSI's lagging 2 to 5 seconds)
>
> and I could go on for a while, this is just my 5 minutes typing exercise
> off the top of my head, because if I didn't have to spend 5 hrs a day
> fighting PPGs and CPset issues in the backend, I actually might have
> found the time to write a 5 pages essay on why the 5.x is a remarkable
> attempt at a facelift with mixed results at best.
>
> Sometimes I really wonder if anybody ever thinks of how it is to USE a
> design choice, instead of thinking of how to implement a new design for
> the sake of it.
>
> Sorry for the rant.
> I'm in a spectacularly bad mood toward XSI this week and I had to get it
> off my chest.
>
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>
> Andi Farhall wrote:
>
>   
> > The new toggle is a pain but I like the feature so much I mapped it to 
> > a hotkey instead.
> >
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