RE: network distributed particle simulations?

Date : Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:18:45 -0400
To : <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "Halfdan Ingvarsson" <hingvars(at)Softimage.COM>
Subject : RE: network distributed particle simulations?
It depends on how memory-bound the calculation is. If it requires a lot of memory access, increasing the number of CPUs beyond a the level where the memory bus is saturated is not going to make a lot of difference. This system, I'm assuming, has a single memory for all CPUs. That kind of a system requires the CPU caches to be kept full all the time. As soon as you hit a page fault (or the OS switches processes) all eight CPUs will have to dump their local caches at which point the performance goes down the toilet. Most super-computers have a large local memory for each CPU to avoid precisely this problem.

There are ways of partitioning this particle fluid problem so that it scales better over a number of CPUs but it's certainly not linear and I'm sure the RealFlow guys have gone there already.

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> Yeah but doesn't it make a huge difference that the machine 
> has 8 CPUs as opposed to your standard 2?  I just never 
> worked on a PC with more than 2 cpus, so I am not sure if 
> there's other issues involved.  
>  
>  I wonder if you would eventually be be able to "daisy-chain" 
> multiple  physics engine cards in one box.
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> Subject: RE: network distributed particle simulations?
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM 
> > [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi
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> >  I bet Real Flow would actually be managable with something 
> like this.
> >  
> 
> I'm not so sure. They've been working with multiple 
> processors and I know
> they thought about networked rendering but fluid systems need 
> to know a lot
> about the particles around them. The issue of network 
> bandwidth isn't a
> small one and it doesn't go away with clever software.
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