Re: Re[2]: Batch and 64 bit

["Alan Jones" <skyphyr(at)gmail.com>]

We ditched rush here for a couple of reasons.

Despite having full reverse lookup on our DNS it just didn't work - it requires you to reconfigure your entire network to suite it (static IPs are mandatory). A system can't truly be considered scalable if you have to manually enter an IP for every machine. I don't even manually install a new machine here - let alone assign an IP by hand.

In order to get an acceptable level of integration and usability (read simplicity) it required a lot of work. Most of which I'd already put in and had it integrated within XSI menus etc, but the reliability without reconfiguring the network was pants.

We never got a same day response on support and given the amount of work it needed to get it performing it certainly didn't justify the price tag. I modified DrQueue to work with XSI, but am now just going to code something from scratch.

The extra effort gets paid back with complete flexibility, working a lot on something that you still don't have complete (source code) access to isn't worthwhile. At least not when it's just a farm manger. To justify the money (at least for something as relatively simple as a farm manger) it has to work flawlessly with minimal effort. Which from everyone I've spoken to XSI farms about Royal Render does.

Cheers,

Alan.

On 5/7/06, Stefan Andersson <sanders3d(at)gmail.com> wrote:

well, first of all. I haven't used RR at all... so I can't really
compare. But here is why we chose Rush over RR in terms of features.

1.) You can use as many applications as you want without having to pay
an extra fee. With RR you need to pay a fee. As we are a post house we
not only do 3D, but a lot of projects are also done in Combustion and
After Effects.

2.) Scalability, this is where Rush really shines out. You can write
your own render scripts (quite easily) to also do other automated
tasks. It's totaly open and you can modify it as you wish. This is
probably the number "ONE" when it comes to chosing.

3.) Stability. Rush has never failed on me as a render dispatcher
(batchserv *shudder*).

4.) Platforms. It runs on Windows (32 & 64), Linux, Irix, Mac OSX.

I hope it helps
stefan andersson


On 5/6/06, Frank Lenhard <franky(at)ixdream.com> wrote:
> just out of curiosity, what justifies the huge price gap of rush over
> royal render and why do you use it? sooner or later i have to look for
> a "real" render management solution myself.
>
>
> ciao
> franky
>
>
> Saturday, May 6, 2006, 7:00:24 PM, you wrote:
>
> SA> *cough* Rush *cough*
>
>
> SA> On 5/3/06, Axel Akesson < axel(at)passion-pictures.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *cough* Royal *cough* Render *cough*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> >> Fabrice Altman
> >>  Sent: 03 May 2006 15:15
> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From the client side. The last time I tried ( 2 3 months ago ) I ran into
> >> those problems :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - batchserve client would not install on a X64 machine with XSI 64 bit
> >> installed
> >>
> >> saying something like it could not find XSI (!)
> >>
> >> - could not find a 64 bit version of MySQL ODBC driver.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe it's time to look at other farm management options.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> F.
> >>
> >>
> >>  ________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> >> Lee Hallett
> >>  Sent: 03 May 2006 14:21
> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
> >>
> >>
> >> Is that necessary for the client side (which is running 64bit)? Or the
> >> server side (that's running 32 bit).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lee|3d animation and design..
> >>
> >> Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
> >>
> >> There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that understand
> >> binary, and those that don't.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  *       BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House| Llandaff,
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> >>   (       +44 (0)29 203 23370
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> >> Stephen Blair
> >>  Sent: 03 May 2006 12:57
> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
> >>
> >>
> >> I believe the problem is that MySQL ODBC driver...you need a 64-bit version.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of
> >> Lee Hallett
> >>  Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:40 AM
> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry to simply repost - but has anyone managed to run Batchserver (client)
> >> with the 64bit version of 5.1 ?? It works fine with the 32bit versions, but
> >> I cannot get the 64bit to work (don't know if it's OS or XSI related)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lee|3d animation and design..
> >>
> >> Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
> >>
> >> There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that understand
> >> binary, and those that don't.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  *       BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House| Llandaff,
> >> Cardiff. CF5 2QY.
> >>   (       +44 (0)29 203 23370
> >>  e-*     lee.hallett(at)bbc.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> >> Lee Hallett
> >>  Sent: 02 May 2006 17:38
> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >>  Subject: Batch and 64 bit
> >>
> >> How do you get Batchserver to work with 64 bit XSI? It doesn't seem to want
> >> to play...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lee|3d animation and design..
> >>
> >> Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
> >>
> >> There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that understand
> >> binary, and those that don't.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  *       BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House| Llandaff,
> >> Cardiff. CF5 2QY.
> >>   (       +44 (0)29 203 23370
> >>  e-*     lee.hallett(at)bbc.co.uk
> >>
> >>
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