Re[4]: Batch and 64 bit

Date : Mon, 8 May 2006 12:47:18 +0200
To : XSI(at)Softimage.COM
From : Frank Lenhard <franky(at)ixdream.com>
Subject : Re[4]: Batch and 64 bit
thanks guys for the shared experiences. i didnt intended to turn this
thread into a render manager comparsion but found it highly
interesting nevertheless :) you cant really judge the tools from their
websites or jsut demos (ok demos ARE better than websites). but
getting to know how they handle in the field is a appreciated
information!

ciao
franky


Monday, May 8, 2006, 11:19:15 AM, you wrote:

SES> We use RR here - and find it great!  Run XSI and Maya together!!

SES>  

SES> S.

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SES> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
SES> Of Alan Jones
SES> Sent: Monday 08 May 2006 10:48 AM
SES> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
SES> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Batch and 64 bit

SES>  

SES> We ditched rush here for a couple of reasons.

SES> Despite having full reverse lookup on our DNS it just didn't work - it
SES> requires you to reconfigure your entire network to suite it (static IPs
SES> are mandatory). A system can't truly be considered scalable if you have
SES> to manually enter an IP for every machine. I don't even manually install
SES> a new machine here - let alone assign an IP by hand. 

SES> In order to get an acceptable level of integration and usability (read
SES> simplicity) it required a lot of work. Most of which I'd already put in
SES> and had it integrated within XSI menus etc, but the reliability without
SES> reconfiguring the network was pants. 

SES> We never got a same day response on support and given the amount of work
SES> it needed to get it performing it certainly didn't justify the price
SES> tag. I modified DrQueue to work with XSI, but am now just going to code
SES> something from scratch. 

SES> The extra effort gets paid back with complete flexibility, working a lot
SES> on something that you still don't have complete (source code) access to
SES> isn't worthwhile. At least not when it's just a farm manger. To justify
SES> the money (at least for something as relatively simple as a farm manger)
SES> it has to work flawlessly with minimal effort. Which from everyone I've
SES> spoken to XSI farms about Royal Render does. 

SES> Cheers,

SES> Alan.

SES> On 5/7/06, Stefan Andersson <sanders3d(at)gmail.com> wrote:

SES> well, first of all. I haven't used RR at all... so I can't really
SES> compare. But here is why we chose Rush over RR in terms of features.

SES> 1.) You can use as many applications as you want without having to pay
SES> an extra fee. With RR you need to pay a fee. As we are a post house we
SES> not only do 3D, but a lot of projects are also done in Combustion and
SES> After Effects.

SES> 2.) Scalability, this is where Rush really shines out. You can write
SES> your own render scripts (quite easily) to also do other automated 
SES> tasks. It's totaly open and you can modify it as you wish. This is
SES> probably the number "ONE" when it comes to chosing.

SES> 3.) Stability. Rush has never failed on me as a render dispatcher
SES> (batchserv *shudder*). 

SES> 4.) Platforms. It runs on Windows (32 & 64), Linux, Irix, Mac OSX.

SES> I hope it helps
SES> stefan andersson


SES> On 5/6/06, Frank Lenhard <franky(at)ixdream.com> wrote: 
>> just out of curiosity, what justifies the huge price gap of rush over
>> royal render and why do you use it? sooner or later i have to look for
>> a "real" render management solution myself.
>>
>>
>> ciao
>> franky
>>
>>
>> Saturday, May 6, 2006, 7:00:24 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> SA> *cough* Rush *cough*
>>
>>
>> SA> On 5/3/06, Axel Akesson < axel(at)passion-pictures.com
SES> <mailto:axel(at)passion-pictures.com> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *cough* Royal *cough* Render *cough*
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ________________________________
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
SES> Behalf Of
>> >> Fabrice Altman
>> >>  Sent: 03 May 2006 15:15
>> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From the client side. The last time I tried ( 2 3 months ago ) I
SES> ran into 
>> >> those problems :
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - batchserve client would not install on a X64 machine with XSI 64
SES> bit
>> >> installed
>> >>
>> >> saying something like it could not find XSI (!)
>> >>
>> >> - could not find a 64 bit version of MySQL ODBC driver.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Maybe it's time to look at other farm management options. 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> F.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ________________________________
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
SES> Behalf Of
>> >> Lee Hallett
>> >>  Sent: 03 May 2006 14:21
>> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Is that necessary for the client side (which is running 64bit)? Or
SES> the
>> >> server side (that's running 32 bit). 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Lee|3d animation and design..
>> >>
>> >> Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
>> >>
>> >> There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that
SES> understand
>> >> binary, and those that don't.
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  *       BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House|
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>> >> Cardiff. CF5 2QY.
>> >>   (       +44 (0)29 203 23370
>> >>  e-*     lee.hallett(at)bbc.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>  From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
SES> Behalf Of
>> >> Stephen Blair
>> >>  Sent: 03 May 2006 12:57
>> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I believe the problem is that MySQL ODBC driver...you need a 64-bit
SES> version.
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>  From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM]On
SES> Behalf Of 
>> >> Lee Hallett
>> >>  Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:40 AM
>> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>> >>  Subject: RE: Batch and 64 bit
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> Sorry to simply repost - but has anyone managed to run Batchserver
SES> (client)
>> >> with the 64bit version of 5.1 ?? It works fine with the 32bit
SES> versions, but
>> >> I cannot get the 64bit to work (don't know if it's OS or XSI
SES> related) 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Lee|3d animation and design..
>> >>
>> >> Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
>> >>
>> >> There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that
SES> understand
>> >> binary, and those that don't.
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  *       BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House|
SES> Llandaff,
>> >> Cardiff. CF5 2QY.
>> >>   (       +44 (0)29 203 23370
>> >>  e-*     lee.hallett(at)bbc.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>  From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
SES> Behalf Of
>> >> Lee Hallett
>> >>  Sent: 02 May 2006 17:38
>> >>  To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>> >>  Subject: Batch and 64 bit
>> >>
>> >> How do you get Batchserver to work with 64 bit XSI? It doesn't seem
SES> to want
>> >> to play...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Lee|3d animation and design..
>> >>
>> >> Pixel pusher & 'telly colouring in' bloke
>> >>
>> >> There are only 10 sorts of people in the World - those that
SES> understand 
>> >> binary, and those that don't.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  *       BBC Wales | C4 graphics area | Broadcasting House|
SES> Llandaff,
>> >> Cardiff. CF5 2QY.
>> >>   (       +44 (0)29 203 23370
>> >>  e-*     lee.hallett(at)bbc.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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