RE: 1 licence for two different versions

Date : Thu, 11 May 2006 11:22:49 +0100
To : <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "kim aldis" <kim(at)aldis.org.uk>
Subject : RE: 1 licence for two different versions
I was addressing Chris, the original poster. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM 
> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
> Sent: 11-May-2006 11:18
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: Re: 1 licence for two different versions
> 
> Hi Kim,
> 
> you where adressing Chris (not Chris Marshall), right?
> 
> I had only butted into the thread but don´t have any 
> licensing problems here myself.
> 
> Now I really get confused...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> tim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kim aldis" <kim(at)aldis.org.uk>
> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:22 AM
> Subject: RE: 1 licence for two different versions
> 
> 
> > There's only so many permutations here;
> >
> > 1. you can't see the license server
> > since one version gets a license, this is unlikely
> > 2. you don't have the correct licens
> > I can't remember if you said 4.2 or 5 wouldn't run but if it's 5
> > then you may not have installed the license for 5. if you 
> can run 5 but not
> > 4.2 then this can't be the case.
> >
> > 3. you've run out of licenses for one version. If this is 
> the case then
> > somewhere, somehow, you're running an xsi and you don't 
> know it. Check the
> > task manager process list for xsi.exe or xsibatch.exe, kill 
> them if they're
> > there. Double check that another machine isn't pulling licenses.
> >
> > That should be it.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
> >> Sent: 11-May-2006 09:32
> >> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >> Subject: Re: 1 licence for two different versions
> >>
> >> Hi Chris (Marshall),
> >>
> >> the confusion (for me) derived from the difference between
> >> SPM and FlexLm, e.g. using FLexLm with Maya 6.01 has the
> >> advantage of letting you run an older (4.5 here) *.lic file
> >> merged with the *upgrade* license file of Maya 6.01, e.g.
> >> there is no built in limitation for interactive licenses, if
> >> you upgrade, you can run both simultaneously
> >> (nodelocked/floating), according to the amount of licenses
> >> you have. One 4.5 and one 6.x, nodelocked (to a specific MAC
> >> adress) or floating.
> >>
> >> I had thought this to be the same with XSI/SPM, ignoring the
> >> explicit use of *interactive* as a licensing token type...
> >>
> >> I still can´t test wether I *could* run XSI 4.2/5.1
> >> simultaneously from 1 upgraded license as I haven´t upgraded
> >> yet. That´s all:-)
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> tim
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Chris Marshall" <chris(at)eclipsecreative.co.uk>
> >> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: 1 licence for two different versions
> >>
> >>
> >> > If you've payed to upgrade to 5, you've still only got a
> >> license to run 1 XSI, no
> >> > matter which version that is.
> >> > If you bought a brand new copy of 5, then clearly you could
> >> still run one 4.2 and
> >> > also your new version 5 at the same time.
> >> > Personally, I'm not sure where the confusion is?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tim Leydecker wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> (this isn´t my thread, it´s Chris´)
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the details about the consequences of the
> >> licensing scheme,
> >> >> I had assumed SPM and FlexLM to work identical, e.g. I could run
> >> >> two 4.5 Maya licenses here using one 4.5 and 6.0 if my
> >> licenses wouldn´t
> >> >> be nodelocked anyway but floating :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Good to know this wouldn´t work with XSI, e.g.you had upgraded
> >> >> a licensefile and explicitely get one interactive license
> >> granted in that.
> >> >> Counting per machine but made to block different builds 
> to run in a
> >> >> simultaneous session from one interactive license.
> >> >>
> >> >> This isn´t ideal as it would obviously be desireable to
> >> have both builds
> >> >> open when transfering things from old>new for fixing 
> inconveniences
> >> >> introduced through new functionality or changed featuresets.
> >> >>
> >> >> tim
> >> >>
> >> >> P.S: I´d find it building customer relationship to allow
> >> *build up* of
> >> >> licenses but I can understand it would be commercially 
> stressing...
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kim aldis" <kim(at)cg-soup.com>
> >> >> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:07 PM
> >> >> Subject: RE: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> The rules are that one user/machine combination only
> >> takes one token, no
> >> >>> matter how many instances of xsi you use. However, it
> >> does seem that the
> >> >>> rule doesn't cross version boundaries and running 5.1
> >> alongside 4.2 won't
> >> >>> work if you have a single token. With that caveat, old
> >> versions of xsi will
> >> >>> run from newer tokens, so 4.2 will run from a 5.1 token
> >> provided 5.1 isn't
> >> >>> running. Which is annoying.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Except on linux where a second xsi will crash the prior
> >> version. That's a
> >> >>> bug, though.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> >> >>>> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Sandy 
> E. Sutherland
> >> >>>> Sent: 10-May-2006 10:49
> >> >>>> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >> >>>> Subject: RE: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Don't know about this - If you BOUGHT 4.2 and then BOUGHT
> >> >>>> 5.01 - then you can get Softimage to generate you a key with
> >> >>>> both in - but if you bought 4.2 and UPGRADED it to 5.01 -
> >> >>>> then you can run only 1 seat at a time - unless of course
> >> >>>> this is on 1 machine - where you should be able to run 2 or
> >> >>>> more XSI at the same time - THIS IS ON THE SAME MACHINE!!!!
> >> >>>> I am presuming this, as I do not run 2 XSIs at the same time
> >> >>>> - do not work that way!!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> S.
> >> >>>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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