No, I'm saying that if you're running xsi from the same machine as the
license server then you don't *have* to set the spm_host variable. However,
if you do then it should be correct. You haven't said whether you are
running from the same machine or not. I don't know what you may have already
done to those files so I don't know if you should do nothing or not.
Like I said before, there's only a few things that could go wrong here.
Let's go through the possibilities. These are the things we know:-
1. you can get a 5.0 license so the server is running correctly, serving
licenses and can be seen.
2. 4.2 will run from a 5.0 license.
3. 4.2 when you run it doesn't get a license.
You need to focus on why 4.2 doesn't get a license. These are the reasons I
can think that it can't get a license:-
1. the spm_host variable in the 4.2 setenv.bat file is set incorrectly.
Or
2. a 5.0 is running when you try to start 4.2. This could be you running it
and not understanding yet that you can't have both versions running at the
same time or there could still be a 5.0 zombie running somewhere that you
aren't aware of.
Both of the last two possibilities have been suggested to you already but
you haven't said if you've looked into them or what the outcome was if you
have. There may be other possibilities but I can't think of one right now
and you should eliminate these before going further.
1. get a 5.0 softimage prompt and type echo %SPM_HOST%
2. now get a 4.2 softimage prompt and type echo %SPM_HOST%.
Post back here with the results. Cut and paste them from the dos windows so
there's no confusion.
Also, check in the task list to be absolutely sure that no other xsi is
running on the machine.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: 13-May-2006 13:59
> To: kim aldis
> Subject: Re[8]: 1 licence for two different versions
>
> Hi, Kim so your saying I don't have to do nothing in the
> licence files ? I know that 5.0 licence is installed because
> taking a look at the licence keys there is no mention of 4.2
> just 5.0 listing. And what I'm seeing I know has got to be
> right, unless a big unless there is something i'm
> mis-understanding when I read the licence keys.
>
> Christopher
>
> Friday, May 12, 2006, 12:52:27 PM, you wrote:
>
> > If you're running xsi local to the spm server you don't
> need anything
> > in there. In absence it assumes localhost.
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Bernard Lebel
> >> Sent: 12-May-2006 17:41
> >> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >> Subject: Re: Re[6]: 1 licence for two different versions
> >>
> >> and do *not* put the <> characters! This is a programming
> notation to
> >> indicate "a value that has to be filled"!!
> >>
> >> You can also put your computer's IP address:
> >>
> >> set _SPM_HOST=192.168.1.10 (just an example)
> >>
> >> You also simply put "localhost", if the SPM is on the same
> computer
> >> as the one running XSI:
> >>
> >>
> >> set _SPM_HOST=localhost
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Bernard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/12/06, Stephen Blair <Stephen_Blair(at)softimage.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Christopher
> >> >
> >> > Open setenv.bat in a text editor.
> >> > Find this line:
> >> >
> >> > rem License servers specified from the setup
> >> >
> >> > And then verify that the very next line looks like this:
> >> >
> >> > set _SPM_HOST=<hostname>
> >> >
> >> > where <hostname> is the name of the computer where you
> >> installed the SPM license server .
> >> >
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
> >> > Behalf Of Chris
> >> > Sent: May 12, 2006 12:00 PM
> >> > To: Wayne Williams
> >> > Subject: Re[6]: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> >
> >> > Hello Wayne, where in that area that says SPM_HOST?
> >> >
> >> > Christopher
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Friday, May 12, 2006, 11:12:43 AM, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Did you input your hostname?
> >> >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Chris" <walksfar(at)netscape.ca>
> >> > > To: "kim aldis" <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> >> > > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:51 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re[4]: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >> Hello kim, well i'm going to recheck everything
> today. I even
> >> > >> botched up a project I was workin on now only to have
> to redo it
> >> > >> again. So you say that it should work if 4.2 is
> working, what
> >> > >> sorta things should I look for in the setenv files of the two?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Christopher
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Friday, May 12, 2006, 2:33:13 AM, you wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > I doubt it. You can get a license for 4.2 so the
> >> licensing is working.
> >> > > Did
> >> > >> > you compare spm variables in both setenv files?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> >> > >> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> >> > >> >> Sent: 12-May-2006 00:37
> >> > >> >> To: kim aldis
> >> > >> >> Subject: Re[2]: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Hello kim, well it's 4.2 that is running and version
> >> 5.0 that is
> >> > >> >> not running. I did a recheck and I get a error with
> >> COM ports,
> >> > >> >> could it be COM ports conflicting ???
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Christopher
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Thursday, May 11, 2006, 5:22:09 AM, you wrote:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > There's only so many permutations here;
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > 1. you can't see the license server
> >> > >> >> > since one version gets a license, this is
> >> unlikely 2.
> >> > >> >> > you don't have the correct licens
> >> > >> >> > I can't remember if you said 4.2 or 5
> wouldn't run
> >> > >> >> but if it's
> >> > >> >> > 5 then you may not have installed the license
> for 5. if you
> >> > >> >> can run 5
> >> > >> >> > but not
> >> > >> >> > 4.2 then this can't be the case.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > 3. you've run out of licenses for one version. If
> >> this is the
> >> > >> >> > case then somewhere, somehow, you're running an
> xsi and you
> >> > >> >> don't know it.
> >> > >> >> > Check the task manager process list for xsi.exe or
> >> > >> >> xsibatch.exe, kill
> >> > >> >> > them if they're there. Double check that another machine
> >> > >> >> isn't pulling licenses.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> > That should be it.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> >> > >> >> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Tim
> >> > >> >> >> Leydecker
> >> > >> >> >> Sent: 11-May-2006 09:32
> >> > >> >> >> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >> > >> >> >> Subject: Re: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> Hi Chris (Marshall),
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> the confusion (for me) derived from the
> difference between
> >> > >> >> >> SPM and FlexLm, e.g. using FLexLm with Maya
> 6.01 has the
> >> > >> >> >> advantage
> >> > >> >> of letting
> >> > >> >> >> you run an older (4.5 here) *.lic file merged with the
> >> > >> >> >> *upgrade* license file of Maya 6.01, e.g.
> >> > >> >> >> there is no built in limitation for interactive
> >> licenses, if
> >> > >> >> >> you upgrade, you can run both simultaneously
> >> > >> >> >> (nodelocked/floating), according to the amount
> of licenses
> >> > >> >> >> you have. One 4.5 and one 6.x, nodelocked (to a
> >> specific MAC
> >> > >> >> >> adress) or floating.
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> I had thought this to be the same with XSI/SPM, ignoring
> >> > >> >> the explicit
> >> > >> >> >> use of *interactive* as a licensing token type...
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> I still can´t test wether I *could* run XSI 4.2/5.1
> >> > >> >> >> simultaneously from 1 upgraded license as I
> >> haven´t upgraded
> >> > >> >> >> yet. That´s all:-)
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> Cheers
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> tim
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> >> >> From: "Chris Marshall" <chris(at)eclipsecreative.co.uk>
> >> > >> >> >> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> >> > >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:41 PM
> >> > >> >> >> Subject: Re: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> > If you've payed to upgrade to 5, you've still
> only got a
> >> > >> >> >> license to run 1 XSI, no
> >> > >> >> >> > matter which version that is.
> >> > >> >> >> > If you bought a brand new copy of 5, then
> >> clearly you could
> >> > >> >> >> still run one 4.2 and
> >> > >> >> >> > also your new version 5 at the same time.
> >> > >> >> >> > Personally, I'm not sure where the confusion is?
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> > Tim Leydecker wrote:
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> >> (this isn´t my thread, it´s Chris´)
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >> Thanks for the details about the consequences of the
> >> > >> >> >> licensing scheme,
> >> > >> >> >> >> I had assumed SPM and FlexLM to work
> identical, e.g. I
> >> > >> >> could run
> >> > >> >> >> >> two 4.5 Maya licenses here using one 4.5 and
> 6.0 if my
> >> > >> >> >> licenses wouldn´t
> >> > >> >> >> >> be nodelocked anyway but floating :-)
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >> Good to know this wouldn´t work with XSI, e.g.you had
> >> > >> >> upgraded a
> >> > >> >> >> >> licensefile and explicitely get one
> interactive license
> >> > >> >> >> granted in that.
> >> > >> >> >> >> Counting per machine but made to block
> different builds
> >> > >> >> to run in
> >> > >> >> >> >> a simultaneous session from one interactive license.
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >> This isn´t ideal as it would obviously be
> desireable to
> >> > >> >> >> have both builds
> >> > >> >> >> >> open when transfering things from old>new for fixing
> >> > >> >> >> >> inconveniences introduced through new
> functionality or
> >> > >> >> changed featuresets.
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >> tim
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >> P.S: I´d find it building customer relationship to
> >> > >> >> >> >> allow
> >> > >> >> >> *build up* of
> >> > >> >> >> >> licenses but I can understand it would be
> commercially
> >> > >> >> stressing...
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kim aldis"
> >> > >> >> >> >> <kim(at)cg-soup.com>
> >> > >> >> >> >> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> >> > >> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:07 PM
> >> > >> >> >> >> Subject: RE: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >>
> >> > >> >> >> >>> The rules are that one user/machine combination only
> >> > >> >> >> takes one token, no
> >> > >> >> >> >>> matter how many instances of xsi you use.
> However, it
> >> > >> >> >> does seem that the
> >> > >> >> >> >>> rule doesn't cross version boundaries and
> running 5.1
> >> > >> >> >> alongside 4.2 won't
> >> > >> >> >> >>> work if you have a single token. With that
> caveat, old
> >> > >> >> >> versions of xsi will
> >> > >> >> >> >>> run from newer tokens, so 4.2 will run from a 5.1
> >> > >> >> >> >>> token
> >> > >> >> >> provided 5.1 isn't
> >> > >> >> >> >>> running. Which is annoying.
> >> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >> >>> Except on linux where a second xsi will crash the
> >> > >> >> >> >>> prior
> >> > >> >> >> version. That's a
> >> > >> >> >> >>> bug, though.
> >> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
> Of Sandy E.
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Sutherland
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Sent: 10-May-2006 10:49
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Subject: RE: 1 licence for two different versions
> >> > >> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> Don't know about this - If you BOUGHT 4.2 and then
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> BOUGHT
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> 5.01 - then you can get Softimage to generate
> >> you a key
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> with both in - but if you bought 4.2 and
> >> UPGRADED it to
> >> > >> >> 5.01 - then
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> you can run only 1 seat at a time - unless
> of course
> >> > >> >> this is on
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> 1 machine - where you should be able to
> run 2 or more
> >> > >> >> XSI at the
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> same time - THIS IS ON THE SAME MACHINE!!!!
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> I am presuming this, as I do not run 2 XSIs
> >> at the same
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> time
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> - do not work that way!!
> >> > >> >> >> >>>>
> >> > >> >> >> >>>> S.
> >> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >> >
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