Re: 1 licence for two different versions

["Morten Bartholdy" <xsi(at)colorshopvfx.dk>]

I take it he hasn't resorted to keelhauling yet then, Raf - after all Kim 
seems to like the high seas to some extent, and probably it's habitual 
rituals too, rum and all too.

Morten Bartholdy
3D & VFX Artist



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raffaele Fragapane" <jaco(at)thejaco.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: 1 licence for two different versions


> Bleeding people... none
> Crying people... none
> Sudden seizures.... none
> Lawsuits... none
>
> nah, I'd say Kim hasn't lost his patience -yet-
>
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>
>
>
> Morten Bartholdy wrote:
>
> > So now you finally lost your patience Kim ;)
> >
> > - Morten
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "kim aldis" <kim(at)aldis.org.uk>
> > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> >
> >
> > > Licensing when you're dealing with server and application running on a
> > > single machine isn't so much of a problem if you take the trouble to
> > > understand how it works and work through the process logically. 
> > > Christopher,
> > > though, complicates the issue by not explaining himself very well, not
> > > listening to what people say to him and having a poor understanding of 
> > > the
> > > tools he uses to earn a living.
> > >
> > > He never did really explain how he fixed the problem but I think it's
> > > pretty obvious he did something with the spm_host variable while he was
> > > randomly stabbing things in the hope that they'd eventually work.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
> > > > Sent: 16-May-2006 10:16
> > > > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > Subject: Re: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > >
> > > > Don?t want to start a flamewar or get insulting to anyone.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I learned quite a bit from that thread.
> > > >
> > > > Licensing (the SPM host, running concurring versions all
> > > > that) can be a bitchy thing and it?s shown that people here a
> > > > willing to help out - even if it?s distracting from their work.
> > > >
> > > > To sum it up - it probably cost a quarter million bucks in
> > > > manhours (reading the posts, answering, maybe deleting them).
> > > >
> > > > In the longrun it *could* save money and longhours thought.
> > > >
> > > > Would be a shame if you?d unscubscribe but you?re free to do so...
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Thomas Helzle" <xsi(at)screendream.de>
> > > > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:56 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ....or maybe create a separate mailinglist for chris.
> > > > > Otherwise I think I will unsubscribe for a while.
> > > > >
> > > > > OMG
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas Helzle
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:28:55 +0200, Will Mendez
> > > > <xsiwill(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Chris,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Call support on Monday, Have them do a remote support
> > > > session on your
> > > > >> machine so that we can finally get to the bottom of this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >> Will
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> > > > >> kim aldis
> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:43 PM
> > > > >> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >> Subject: RE: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Then if the value of that variable is supposed to be the
> > > > name of the machine
> > > > >> which is serving licenses, I'd say that's your problem.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >>> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > > >>> Sent: 14-May-2006 15:22
> > > > >>> To: kim aldis
> > > > >>> Subject: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hello kim, no it's not the name of the computer !
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Christopher
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Sunday, May 14, 2006, 2:45:34 AM, you wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > And is SPM_x the name of your machine?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >>> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > > >>> >> Sent: 13-May-2006 23:14
> > > > >>> >> To: kim aldis
> > > > >>> >> Subject: Re[12]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> Hello kim, yes I'm running both from the same machine.
> > > > >>> Did the echo
> > > > >>> >> %SPM_HOST% and for the:
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> 4.2 command prompt I just get this returned to me:
> > > > %SPM_HOST% 5.o
> > > > >>> >> command prompt I get this returned to me: SPM_x
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> Christopher
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> Saturday, May 13, 2006, 4:22:53 PM, you wrote:
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> >> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >>> >> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > > >>> >> >> Sent: 13-May-2006 21:13
> > > > >>> >> >> To: kim aldis
> > > > >>> >> >> Subject: Re[10]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> Saturday, May 13, 2006, 3:38:27 PM, you wrote:
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> >  No, I'm saying that if you're running xsi from the same
> > > > >>> >> machine as
> > > > >>> >> >> > the license server then you don't *have* to set the
> > > > >>> >> >> spm_host variable.
> > > > >>> >> >> > However, if you do then it should be correct. You haven't
> > > > >>> >> >> said whether
> > > > >>> >> >> > you are running from the same machine or not. I don't
> > > > >>> >> know what you
> > > > >>> >> >> > may have already done to those files so I don't
> > > > know if you
> > > > >>> >> >> should do nothing or not.
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> I have done nothing to the serv.bat files at all I have
> > > > >>> not edited
> > > > >>> >> >> them nothing there at there default settings.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > I asked if you were running xsi from the same machine as
> > > > >>> >> the license server.
> > > > >>> >> > Are you?
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > Just because you've done nothing to them doesn't mean
> > > > >>> >> they're correct.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> I have a 5.0 licence running so your right the server
> > > > >>> is running.
> > > > >>> >> >> And to recap 4.2 will run from 5.0 *BUT* 5.0 doesn't run
> > > > >>> >> from a 5.0
> > > > >>> >> >> licence.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > I was misunderstanding you. I thought you could run 5.0 but
> > > > >>> >> not 4.2. Sorry.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> Running "echo SPM_HOST" (without the quotes) at both 5.0 and
> > > > >>> >> >> 4.2 command prompt just gives me the following
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> SPM
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > You need to typ echo %SPM_HOST%, not echo SPM_HOST.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > Once again, can you confirm that you're running spm
> > > > on the same
> > > > >>> >> > machine as you're running  xsi. It has a bearing.
> > > > >>> >>
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> > > > >>> >> --
> > > > >>> >> Best regards,
> > > > >>> >>  Chris                            mailto:walksfar(at)netscape.ca
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