Re: Re[17]: 1 licence for two different versions

["Morten Bartholdy" <xsi(at)colorshopvfx.dk>]

Hi Chris,

If your mail was directed to me, among others, alright. I did not mean to 
bash you - I am glad you eventually solved your problem and think Kim, 
Bernard and others did a good job helping along and I really admire their 
patience with you. Point is, like Kim writes, you complicated the issue by 
not explaining yourself very well, not listening to what people said to you, 
and in the process cluttered the list with the type and amount of more or 
less pointless mails that sometimes drive the good guys away from this list. 
This is a professional forum and in order to keep it so and keep the high 
level of quality posts here, I as I suspect many others here, hope people 
will think hard, RTFM, search forums, think more and then ask questions 
here. I know how frustrating licensing issues can be - back when I started 
using Soft on SGI's I had nightmarish sessions all night long before getting 
things up and running again after updating the SW. The thing is these 
matters are pretty well described in the installation documentation and 
nowadays SPM is a far cry easier to deal with than old FlexLM imho. Most if 
not all of the stuff Bernard and Kim and others told you is in the docs. 
Plus, your reseller usually answers questions like these and if not, 
support(at)softimage.com does.

I count 29 messages regarding this one issue in 7 days - enough said.

I hope your copy of XSI will keep running smoothly and you get your jobs 
done and make good money on it and you have little grief in your working 
life. This is what I strive for and one of the things that make me stay 
happy is a tidy userlist if you know what I mean. It is just much more 
useful that way. Please don't misunderstand me Chris - if you have a problem 
with XSI do ask here or on xsibase.com (beware, Bernard is moderator there 
;) ) but please for the future make your questions to the point, provide 
indepth info about the problem when asked and I am sure people here, myself 
included if I can, will help you.

Have a good day too.


Best regards

Morten Bartholdy
3D & VFX Artist
Denmark









----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris" <walksfar(at)netscape.ca>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: Re[17]: 1 licence for two different versions


> Well this is not directed at you Kim, reason being I dunno it seems
> some of you wanted kim to loose his temper !!   I acctully found his
> responces pretty good points, when I went though and re-read to
> understand, something small that make it worked dawned on me.  Well I
> got it to work so that is the good thing.  Bashing someone down
> doesn't solve anything.
>
> Good day
> Christopher
>
>
>
>
> > Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 5:48:19 AM, you wrote:
>
> > > Licensing when you're dealing with server and application running on a
> > > single machine isn't so much of a problem if you take the trouble to
> > > understand how it works and work through the process logically. 
> > > Christopher,
> > > though, complicates the issue by not explaining himself very well, not
> > > listening to what people say to him and having a poor understanding of 
> > > the
> > > tools he uses to earn a living.
>
> > >  He never did really explain how he fixed the problem but I think it's
> > > pretty obvious he did something with the spm_host variable while he was
> > > randomly stabbing things in the hope that they'd eventually work.
>
>
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
> > > > Sent: 16-May-2006 10:16
> > > > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > Subject: Re: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > >
> > > > Don?t want to start a flamewar or get insulting to anyone.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I learned quite a bit from that thread.
> > > >
> > > > Licensing (the SPM host, running concurring versions all
> > > > that) can be a bitchy thing and it?s shown that people here a
> > > > willing to help out - even if it?s distracting from their work.
> > > >
> > > > To sum it up - it probably cost a quarter million bucks in
> > > > manhours (reading the posts, answering, maybe deleting them).
> > > >
> > > > In the longrun it *could* save money and longhours thought.
> > > >
> > > > Would be a shame if you?d unscubscribe but you?re free to do so...
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Thomas Helzle" <xsi(at)screendream.de>
> > > > To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:56 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ....or maybe create a separate mailinglist for chris.
> > > > > Otherwise I think I will unsubscribe for a while.
> > > > >
> > > > > OMG
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas Helzle
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:28:55 +0200, Will Mendez
> > > > <xsiwill(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Chris,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Call support on Monday, Have them do a remote support
> > > > session on your
> > > > >> machine so that we can finally get to the bottom of this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >> Will
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
> > > > >> kim aldis
> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:43 PM
> > > > >> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >> Subject: RE: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Then if the value of that variable is supposed to be the
> > > > name of the machine
> > > > >> which is serving licenses, I'd say that's your problem.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >>> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > > >>> Sent: 14-May-2006 15:22
> > > > >>> To: kim aldis
> > > > >>> Subject: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hello kim, no it's not the name of the computer !
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Christopher
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Sunday, May 14, 2006, 2:45:34 AM, you wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > And is SPM_x the name of your machine?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >>> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > > >>> >> Sent: 13-May-2006 23:14
> > > > >>> >> To: kim aldis
> > > > >>> >> Subject: Re[12]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> Hello kim, yes I'm running both from the same machine.
> > > > >>> Did the echo
> > > > >>> >> %SPM_HOST% and for the:
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> 4.2 command prompt I just get this returned to me:
> > > > %SPM_HOST% 5.o
> > > > >>> >> command prompt I get this returned to me: SPM_x
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> Christopher
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> Saturday, May 13, 2006, 4:22:53 PM, you wrote:
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> >> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > >>> >> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
> > > > >>> >> >> Sent: 13-May-2006 21:13
> > > > >>> >> >> To: kim aldis
> > > > >>> >> >> Subject: Re[10]: 1 licence for two different versions
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> Saturday, May 13, 2006, 3:38:27 PM, you wrote:
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> >  No, I'm saying that if you're running xsi from the same
> > > > >>> >> machine as
> > > > >>> >> >> > the license server then you don't *have* to set the
> > > > >>> >> >> spm_host variable.
> > > > >>> >> >> > However, if you do then it should be correct. You haven't
> > > > >>> >> >> said whether
> > > > >>> >> >> > you are running from the same machine or not. I don't
> > > > >>> >> know what you
> > > > >>> >> >> > may have already done to those files so I don't
> > > > know if you
> > > > >>> >> >> should do nothing or not.
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> I have done nothing to the serv.bat files at all I have
> > > > >>> not edited
> > > > >>> >> >> them nothing there at there default settings.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > I asked if you were running xsi from the same machine as
> > > > >>> >> the license server.
> > > > >>> >> > Are you?
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > Just because you've done nothing to them doesn't mean
> > > > >>> >> they're correct.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> I have a 5.0 licence running so your right the server
> > > > >>> is running.
> > > > >>> >> >> And to recap 4.2 will run from 5.0 *BUT* 5.0 doesn't run
> > > > >>> >> from a 5.0
> > > > >>> >> >> licence.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > I was misunderstanding you. I thought you could run 5.0 but
> > > > >>> >> not 4.2. Sorry.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> Running "echo SPM_HOST" (without the quotes) at both 5.0 and
> > > > >>> >> >> 4.2 command prompt just gives me the following
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> SPM
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > You need to typ echo %SPM_HOST%, not echo SPM_HOST.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > Once again, can you confirm that you're running spm
> > > > on the same
> > > > >>> >> > machine as you're running  xsi. It has a bearing.
> > > > >>> >>
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> > > > >>> >>  Chris                            mailto:walksfar(at)netscape.ca
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