Hello Morten, well i'm sorry to all if I was not clear enough. I
understand your point Morten and if I have a problem that I cannot
solve off hand, i'll first check out some other sites then try the
list. If I find I am finding no useful information etc etc. Well
thank you all again and have a nice day to everyone on the list :).
Christopher
Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:02:26 AM, you wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> If your mail was directed to me, among others, alright. I did not mean to
> bash you - I am glad you eventually solved your problem and think Kim,
> Bernard and others did a good job helping along and I really admire their
> patience with you. Point is, like Kim writes, you complicated the issue by
> not explaining yourself very well, not listening to what people said to you,
> and in the process cluttered the list with the type and amount of more or
> less pointless mails that sometimes drive the good guys away from this list.
> This is a professional forum and in order to keep it so and keep the high
> level of quality posts here, I as I suspect many others here, hope people
> will think hard, RTFM, search forums, think more and then ask questions
> here. I know how frustrating licensing issues can be - back when I started
> using Soft on SGI's I had nightmarish sessions all night long before getting
> things up and running again after updating the SW. The thing is these
> matters are pretty well described in the installation documentation and
> nowadays SPM is a far cry easier to deal with than old FlexLM imho. Most if
> not all of the stuff Bernard and Kim and others told you is in the docs.
> Plus, your reseller usually answers questions like these and if not,
> support(at)softimage.com does.
> I count 29 messages regarding this one issue in 7 days - enough said.
> I hope your copy of XSI will keep running smoothly and you get your jobs
> done and make good money on it and you have little grief in your working
> life. This is what I strive for and one of the things that make me stay
> happy is a tidy userlist if you know what I mean. It is just much more
> useful that way. Please don't misunderstand me Chris - if you have a problem
> with XSI do ask here or on xsibase.com (beware, Bernard is moderator there
> ;) ) but please for the future make your questions to the point, provide
> indepth info about the problem when asked and I am sure people here, myself
> included if I can, will help you.
> Have a good day too.
> Best regards
> Morten Bartholdy
> 3D & VFX Artist
> Denmark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris" <walksfar(at)netscape.ca>
> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re[17]: 1 licence for two different versions
>> Well this is not directed at you Kim, reason being I dunno it seems
>> some of you wanted kim to loose his temper !! I acctully found his
>> responces pretty good points, when I went though and re-read to
>> understand, something small that make it worked dawned on me. Well I
>> got it to work so that is the good thing. Bashing someone down
>> doesn't solve anything.
>>
>> Good day
>> Christopher
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 5:48:19 AM, you wrote:
>>
>>>> Licensing when you're dealing with server and application running on a
>>>> single machine isn't so much of a problem if you take the trouble to
>>>> understand how it works and work through the process logically.
>>>> Christopher,
>>>> though, complicates the issue by not explaining himself very well, not
>>>> listening to what people say to him and having a poor understanding of
>>>> the
>>>> tools he uses to earn a living.
>>
>>>> He never did really explain how he fixed the problem but I think it's
>>>> pretty obvious he did something with the spm_host variable while he was
>>>> randomly stabbing things in the hope that they'd eventually work.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
>>>>> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
>>>>> Sent: 16-May-2006 10:16
>>>>> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
>>>>>
>>>>> Don?t want to start a flamewar or get insulting to anyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I learned quite a bit from that thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Licensing (the SPM host, running concurring versions all
>>>>> that) can be a bitchy thing and it?s shown that people here a
>>>>> willing to help out - even if it?s distracting from their work.
>>>>>
>>>>> To sum it up - it probably cost a quarter million bucks in
>>>>> manhours (reading the posts, answering, maybe deleting them).
>>>>>
>>>>> In the longrun it *could* save money and longhours thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would be a shame if you?d unscubscribe but you?re free to do so...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Thomas Helzle" <xsi(at)screendream.de>
>>>>> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > ....or maybe create a separate mailinglist for chris.
>>>>> > Otherwise I think I will unsubscribe for a while.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > OMG
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thomas Helzle
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:28:55 +0200, Will Mendez
>>>>> <xsiwill(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Chris,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Call support on Monday, Have them do a remote support
>>>>> session on your
>>>>> >> machine so that we can finally get to the bottom of this.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Regards,
>>>>> >> Will
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
>>>>> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of
>>>>> >> kim aldis
>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:43 PM
>>>>> >> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>>>>> >> Subject: RE: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Then if the value of that variable is supposed to be the
>>>>> name of the machine
>>>>> >> which is serving licenses, I'd say that's your problem.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
>>>>> >>> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>> >>> Sent: 14-May-2006 15:22
>>>>> >>> To: kim aldis
>>>>> >>> Subject: Re[14]: 1 licence for two different versions
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hello kim, no it's not the name of the computer !
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Christopher
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Sunday, May 14, 2006, 2:45:34 AM, you wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> > And is SPM_x the name of your machine?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >>> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
>>>>> >>> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>> >>> >> Sent: 13-May-2006 23:14
>>>>> >>> >> To: kim aldis
>>>>> >>> >> Subject: Re[12]: 1 licence for two different versions
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Hello kim, yes I'm running both from the same machine.
>>>>> >>> Did the echo
>>>>> >>> >> %SPM_HOST% and for the:
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> 4.2 command prompt I just get this returned to me:
>>>>> %SPM_HOST% 5.o
>>>>> >>> >> command prompt I get this returned to me: SPM_x
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Christopher
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Saturday, May 13, 2006, 4:22:53 PM, you wrote:
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >>> >> >> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
>>>>> >>> >> >> [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>> >>> >> >> Sent: 13-May-2006 21:13
>>>>> >>> >> >> To: kim aldis
>>>>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re[10]: 1 licence for two different versions
>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >> Saturday, May 13, 2006, 3:38:27 PM, you wrote:
>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >> > No, I'm saying that if you're running xsi from the same
>>>>> >>> >> machine as
>>>>> >>> >> >> > the license server then you don't *have* to set the
>>>>> >>> >> >> spm_host variable.
>>>>> >>> >> >> > However, if you do then it should be correct. You haven't
>>>>> >>> >> >> said whether
>>>>> >>> >> >> > you are running from the same machine or not. I don't
>>>>> >>> >> know what you
>>>>> >>> >> >> > may have already done to those files so I don't
>>>>> know if you
>>>>> >>> >> >> should do nothing or not.
>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >> I have done nothing to the serv.bat files at all I have
>>>>> >>> not edited
>>>>> >>> >> >> them nothing there at there default settings.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > I asked if you were running xsi from the same machine as
>>>>> >>> >> the license server.
>>>>> >>> >> > Are you?
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > Just because you've done nothing to them doesn't mean
>>>>> >>> >> they're correct.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >> I have a 5.0 licence running so your right the server
>>>>> >>> is running.
>>>>> >>> >> >> And to recap 4.2 will run from 5.0 *BUT* 5.0 doesn't run
>>>>> >>> >> from a 5.0
>>>>> >>> >> >> licence.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > I was misunderstanding you. I thought you could run 5.0 but
>>>>> >>> >> not 4.2. Sorry.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >> Running "echo SPM_HOST" (without the quotes) at both 5.0 and
>>>>> >>> >> >> 4.2 command prompt just gives me the following
>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >> >> SPM
>>>>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > You need to typ echo %SPM_HOST%, not echo SPM_HOST.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > Once again, can you confirm that you're running spm
>>>>> on the same
>>>>> >>> >> > machine as you're running xsi. It has a bearing.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> > ---
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>>>>> >>> >> --
>>>>> >>> >> Best regards,
>>>>> >>> >> Chris mailto:walksfar(at)netscape.ca
>>>>> >>> >>
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