Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.

["Andrea Padovan" <xsidriller(at)gmail.com>]

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2006/6/14, Sam Cuttriss <sam(at)janimation.com>:

consider yourself cursed....
grin
_sam
 

SAM CUTTRISS
3D AFICIONADO

Andrea Padovan wrote:

Thanks for all answers,

I have to tell sorry about this noise, the framerate fall down was came due to an old and forgotten OnSelectionChanged script event.

Sorry again, please don't curse me.

 

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Andrea

 

2006/6/13, Luc-Eric Rousseau <lucer(at)softimage.com>:

I don't know, try to turn off various things, for example right click on the timeline and turn off Show Keys. also make sure you're trying this by starting in XSI's default single-screen layout, to rule out any hidden views

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From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM]On Behalf Of Brent McPherson
Posted At: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:30 AM
Posted To: xsi
Conversation: Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.
Subject: RE: Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.

Andrea,

 

Sorry, I don't have any ideas off the top of my head as to what could be causing the slowdown. My suggestions would be along the same lines as others have suggested? Do you have any unusual views open, plugins installed or OnSelectionChanged scripts? You could also try renaming your preferences file to force XSI to create a new one and see if that makes a difference.

 

I think your best bet is to go through support since they will try to reproduce the problem taking into account which QFEs you have installed etc.

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Brent

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From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Andrea Padovan
Sent: 13 June 2006 13:14
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.

 

Hi Brent,

Thanks, I understood, maybe you have some idea about my problem ?

I notice that the same workstation with only one setup of XSI doesn't have the problem.

Could be to too much versions of XSI installed ?

What I could try ?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Andrea
 

2006/6/13, Brent McPherson <brentmc(at)softimage.com>:

Are you thinking of Preferences -> Interaction -> Limit Max Playback Rate to Scene Frame Rate?

 

Also, the maximum frame rate will be clamped to the monitors refresh rate unless you turn off vertical sync in the driver. Turning off vertical sync can result in "tearing" since the image might be refreshed halfway through a vertical retrace but can give much better performance when using multiple 3D views. (since you are not forcing each 3D view to wait for the next vertical retrace)

 

Also, our software does have an upper limit of around 75-80 fps when interacting or orbiting but this doesn't apply to playback. This is not an issue with XSI but is based on the maximum rate at which mouse events are dispatched by the underlying OS. (so the limit applies to other software packages too)

 

Cheers!

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Brent

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From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of kim aldis
Sent: 13 June 2006 11:57

To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.

 

There's something somewhere that limit's XSI's playback to 60 fps. It's unset on my laptop but the workstation I have here won't go faster than 60fps, no matter what I do. Can't remember what the damn button is, though.

 

From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Andrea Padovan

Sent: 13 June 2006 11:31
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM

Subject: Re: Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.

 

Tim,

 

I tried to use only one monitor, but still same problem...

I deactivate vertical sync, same problem...

 

P.S.

Anyway, I can't go up more than 75 fps, (because I change Screen Refresh rate to 75 in my LCD)

Kim, 300 fps, even 500 fps! O_O are you doing HD beta testing ?

I want your engine Man! :-)

 

Andrea
 

2006/6/13, Tim Leydecker <BauerOink(at)gmx.de>:

Hi Andrea,

sounds like a driver preset issue. From the number of your
drivers I´d suspect you use an nvidia card, quadro drivers.

Performance with these drivers varies GREATLY depending
on your driversettings. Do you use the softimageXSI preset?

With my XFX 7900GT/84.26 here, I usually experience a painful
lag for the first couple of seconds or camerarotations. Basically,
until the geometry has been "cached" by the driver. Then it ´s faaast.

In your driversettings>extended settings, do you have your
hardware acceleration set to multiple monitors maybe?

For a test, you could also deactivate vertical sync but beware,
you shouldn´t really mess with any of that stuff if you´re unsure
what it means. E.g., if you´re not sure where to find the graphics-
card type installed in your box it ´s better you only change the preset...

Cheers

tim

P.S: 300+ frames is insane. I really envious...


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From: "Andrea Padovan" < xsidriller(at)gmail.com>

To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3
fps.


> Thanks for your time Kim.
> Incredible... I'll try to report to Softimage...
> Anyway I think that problem is XSI 5.0-qfe6 but I'm still not sure.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Andrea
>

> 2006/6/13, kim aldis <kim(at)aldis.org.uk>:

>>
>>   I sort of half lied. In wireframe I get about a 15% slowdown when I
>> select the cubes, 30% slowdown in shaded or hidden line. Not anything like
>> you're getting though.
>>
>>
>>

>> *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM ] *On

>> Behalf Of *kim aldis
>> *Sent:* 13 June 2006 10:35
>> *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM

>> *Subject:* RE: Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down
>> from 60 fps to 3 fps.
>>
>>
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>> Seems fine here. 100 cubes, 300 fps; selected or unselected. 100 nulls;
>> 500 fps again, selected or unselected
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>>
>>
>> Jeez, 300 fps on a laptop!
>>
>>
>>

>> *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] *On

>> Behalf Of *Andrea Padovan
>> *Sent:* 13 June 2006 10:16
>> *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM

>> *Subject:* [Norton AntiSpam] Re: When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate
>> fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm going mad,
>> Even with 100 null select frame rate fall down...
>>
>> XSI 4.2 works fine...
>>
>>
>>
>>

>> 2006/6/13, kim aldis <kim(at)aldis.org.uk>:

>>
>> Check to see if boundary edges and points are being displayed. I've seen
>> that slow things down a bit. And the fcurve editor too. Anything in the
>> display that looks different to when nothing's selected.
>>
>>
>>

>> *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] *On

>> Behalf Of *Andrea Padovan
>> *Sent:* 13 June 2006 07:41
>> *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM

>> *Subject:* When I select 100 objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps
>> to 3 fps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> When I select few objects, XSI frame rate fall down from 60 fps to 3 fps.
>>
>> It seem the number of object selected, not number of polygons or the
>> object's complexity.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please try these steps if you have time...
>>
>> 1. Create 100 objects in general (nulls or polygon mesh, has the same
>> result).
>>
>> 2. Show frame rate on viewport
>>
>> 3. Play time line with nothing selected. (I really hope that you are able
>> to see 60 fps with 100 null)
>>
>> 4. Play time line with all object selected. (In my side frame rate fall
>> down to 3 fps)
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, I tried with all drivers versions from 77.56 to 84.26, nothing
>> change.
>>
>> English or Japanse OS, nothign change.
>>
>> Even with Certificated SoftImage|XSI Drivers 77.56.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the following XSI versions installed in my workstation:
>>
>> 4.2 - 5.0 - 5.06 - 5.1 - 5.11
>>
>> I need all versions, due to different plug-in packages and XSI SDK.
>>
>> I tried to make this test with workstation with only one version of XSI
>> installed, there are not problems.
>>
>> In my workstation only XSI 4.2 works fine, so I guess that the problem is
>> one of 5.x version of XSI...
>>
>>
>>
>> My workstation and all here are:
>>
>>
>>
>> - hp xw4200
>>
>> - quadro fx 1400 with 77.56 drivers version.
>>
>> - Windos XP 32Bit SP2
>>
>> - Intel Pentium 3.60 Ghz
>>
>> - 4GB of Ram
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to ask if somebody has/d the same problem.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
>>
>> アンドレア パドヴァン
>> Andrea Padovan
>>
>> Tools Designer (at)
>> SEGA CORPORATION
>> AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
>> AM R&D Div.
>> http://www.sega.co.jp/
>> Blr. Founder
>> http://www.borderliner.it
>> Actually located in Tokyo Japan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> アンドレア パドヴァン
>> Andrea Padovan
>>
>> Tools Designer (at)
>> SEGA CORPORATION
>> AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
>> AM R&D Div.
>> http://www.sega.co.jp/
>> Blr. Founder
>> http://www.borderliner.it
>> Actually located in Tokyo Japan
>>
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> アンドレア パドヴァン
> Andrea Padovan
>
> Tools Designer (at)
> SEGA CORPORATION
> AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
> AM R&D Div.
> http://www.sega.co.jp/

> Blr. Founder
> http://www.borderliner.it
> Actually located in Tokyo Japan
>

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Andrea Padovan

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SEGA CORPORATION
AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
AM R&D Div.
http://www.sega.co.jp/
Blr. Founder
http://www.borderliner.it
Actually located in Tokyo Japan

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アンドレア　パドヴァン
Andrea Padovan

Tools Designer (at)
SEGA CORPORATION
AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
AM R&D Div.
http://www.sega.co.jp/
Blr. Founder
http://www.borderliner.it
Actually located in Tokyo Japan

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アンドレア　パドヴァン
Andrea Padovan

Tools Designer (at)
SEGA CORPORATION
AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
AM R&D Div.
http://www.sega.co.jp/
Blr. Founder
http://www.borderliner.it
Actually located in Tokyo Japan

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アンドレア　パドヴァン
Andrea Padovan

Tools Designer (at) 
SEGA CORPORATION
AM R&D Dept.#1 Arcade Team
AM R&D Div.
http://www.sega.co.jp/
Blr. Founder 
http://www.borderliner.it
Actually located in Tokyo Japan