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Alan,
That is neat one + for Gentoo. If X fails where does it take you if you
are on runlevel 5? Does it switch to 3 automatically? I remember trying
many ways around this when I started and managed to make it freeze while
loading X. Restart X might work with fedora too, but trouble ahead if it
fails, sure could now switch runlevel if it fails and freezes, not then.
Actually will edit 3 at the end of kernel line on bootloader as separate
boot option to runlevel 3 right now. What ever may come up, cleaning woman
can even yank the power cable off...
http://www.cleaningwomen.com/
Mikko
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:08:31 +0300, Alan Jones <skyphyr(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mikko,
Gentoo can install the nvidia-drivers while X is running - though you
can't switch to the new driver without exiting X and (re)loading the
module, then starting X again - though at least in linux land we don't
need a full reboot.
Cheers,
Alan.
On 6/21/06, Mikko Ronkainen <noratio(at)kolumbus.fi> wrote:
You are too hasty. You didn't manage all the glitches with Windows at
first did you. Next time format hda1, sda1 or what ever you need and
dualboot. Anything goes wrong you have the option. Once you've learned
you
can ditch Bill. You can install driver from commando line, X runs
again.
Never ran ubuntu thought, must be run levels on that too. Basically I
believe you won't install drivers while x is running, never.
Believe me they never took me as nerdy. Problem is you want to jump the
ship on fly. Also knowing someone with linux experience helps.
Many times people write how it is easy or pleasant it is nowadays to run
linux. Yes for start you want that.
Soon you want rip all the eye candy away and run blackbox fluxbox or
xface.
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:24:50 +0300, Thomas Helzle <xsi(at)screendream.de>
wrote:
> Alan, I think that is a very personal view.
>
> I have a look at linux once every year since Suse 5.x came out or
> longer, can't remember anymore.
> I even had a server with it running for 3/4 of a year a long time ago,
> with samba etc.
> Then something got wrong with some config file in the middle of a
> project, I couldn't find the reason.
> Format C, install Windows, works.
>
> I installed Ubuntu 6 lately, but it's been the same as ever: it didn't
> like my graphics card, the linux driver from the vendor was not for
the
> right kernel, I wasn't able to increase the desktop resolution above
> 640x480. Then I was browsing through 20 or so man pages, trying to
> manually set the X resolution. Did something wrong, couldn't start X
> anymore.
> Format disk, install Windows.
> Try again next year.
>
> I'm sure Linux is fantastic for people with deeper insight and I would
> love to use it, but in many areas it still feels as nerdy as ever.
> And if the pressure is high, I want a system I "understand" and can
fix
> myself.
>
>
> Just my 2 cent,
>
> Thomas Helzle
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:06:22 +0200, Alan Jones <skyphyr(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Sounds like your assuming a lot of things with regards to maintenance
>> levels on linux. Do you even bother to patch your windows box, which
>> arguably requires it more?
>>
>> Have a read of a windows user's install of ubuntu 6, which was just
>> released.
>> http://lenwood.cc/2006/06/17/ubuntu-rocks-on-laptops/
>> It's a livecd so you can check it out just by booting off the cd
>> without installing.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On 6/21/06, Tim Leydecker <BauerOink(at)gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>
>>> IÂd prefer a port of shake back to Windows. Even thought
>>> w2k/xp donÂt quite allow for more than 1,5/3/ GB of Ram
>>> really, Vista *may* bring things back on par with MacOS
>>> and Linux.
>>>
>>> If I where Steve Jobs, IÂd make sure *everyone* can use
>>> Shake, FinalCut, I-Movie, use the Apple Intermediate codec
>>> for HDV and basically seamlessly integrate any Mac thing in a
>>> heterogenious network by allowing to make it homogenious
>>> through BootCamp...for me only thatÂd be an *univeral binary*.
>>> IÂd love to run FinalCut and Shake but itÂs creepy to see them
>>> stick to they OS so rigidly even fining users of concurring OSes.
>>> *ThatÂs like 1984*...
>>>
>>> I can understand youÂve picked Linux as your tool of choice
>>> and donÂt want to object against that, tho. Adobe really should
>>> look into supporting Linux. Starting now and releasing production
>>> ready when people like me, or ones coming from Mac could
>>> install (and maintain!) their Linux box as as easy as if it where
XP.
>>>
>>> Personally, IÂd have allready migrated but I simply canÂt put in
>>> the time to learn Linux, make sure I understand whatÂs going on,
>>> constantly keep everything running, all packages installed, drivers
>>> configured and kernels patched. I hate to say it but thatÂs too much
>>> work for me. I can hardly keep up maintaining my 2-3 windoze
boxes...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>> P.S: I want loads of Ram, HDTV 4:4:4 editing, a breakoutbox with
>>> a 1920x1200 flatscreen, the best apps fot the task and donÂt waste
>>> my time by running into limitations stubborn competitors build in to
>>> gain marketleadership or protect marketshare. Turns me off...
>
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