Re: [OT] dynamite v1.1

["adrian" <adrian.wyer(at)fluid-pictures.com>]

so if it was done again, with slightly different code, perhaps, it could 
'maybe' be something
that 'might' be released as an addon, for say, oooh $100 a pop?


maybe?

hmm?

a
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stefano Jannuzzo" <stefanojannuzzo(at)tiscali.it>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] dynamite v1.1


> Yes, it was done for AS, 2 years ago, out of the Fedkiw-Stam-Jensen 
> article and some free code available.
> Stefano
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marc-Andre Carbonneau" <marc-andre.carbonneau(at)ubisoft.com>
> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [OT] dynamite v1.1
>
>
> > Last I heard about this is that their implementation belongs to Action 
> > Synthese since it was developed while they were working there. (Stefano 
> > and Largo)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf 
> > Of Rob Wuijster
> > Sent: July 3, 2006 7:30 AM
> > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > Subject: Re: [OT] dynamite v1.1
> >
> > Direct link to the website:
> > http://www.mutabilis.it/
> > Link is in the menu. Seems to be voxel based with MR shader.... Let's
> > hope it' an addon ;-)
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > *Rob Wuijster
> > *
> > Condor Digital
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> >
> >
> >
> > Gent Krasniqi wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > > I got this guys website from xsiblog (the latest article writer) and
> > > found some interesting tests on smoke rendering.
> > > His website: http://web.tiscali.it/stefanoj/
> > > Volume Rendering tests: http://web.tiscali.it/stefanoj/Smoke/Smoke.html
> > >
> > > The tests look quite nice even though it doesn't mention if there is
> > > something special on the motion side happening (but a 'simulator' is
> > > mentioned).
> > >
> > > Anyway, thought I would post it here.
> > >
> > > On 6/15/06, *Vince Fortin* <vfortin(at)gmail.com
> > > <mailto:vfortin(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Think I meant Schönberger... y'know, Holger...
> > >
> > >
> > >     On 6/15/06, *Vince Fortin* < vfortin(at)gmail.com
> > >     <mailto:vfortin(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >         So MAC, how does that compares to BA Volume in your opinion?
> > >         Isn't something M. Schoenberger could later add to his toolset?
> > >         I bet the rendertime isn't that much of a worry.
> > >
> > >         On 6/14/06, *Marc-Andre Carbonneau*
> > >         <marc-andre.carbonneau(at)ubisoft.com
> > >         <mailto:marc-andre.carbonneau(at)ubisoft.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >             Some more voxel stuff. This time for Houdini.
> > >
> > >             http://www.myrtlesoftware.com/index.php/fivebyfive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >             *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > >             <mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM> [mailto:
> > >             owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM>]
> > >             *On Behalf Of *Vince Fortin
> > >             *Sent:* June 13, 2006 5:43 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >             *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >             *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: [OT] dynamite v1.1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             I see... I think it's a combination of the two.
> > >             It happens where density and temperature (simulation) peak
> > >             then the shader draws the colors according to these.
> > >             Maya fluids have a nice set of texturing/gradients tools
> > >             for that. You can really play with the thresholds for each
> > >             voxel attributes and make the clouds crunchier, brighter, 
> > > etc.
> > >             Back to XSI, with a simple volume shader, I recall being
> > >             able to give some kind of SSS look to the render using the
> > >             density returned by the particles (see the 4th orange
> > >             render on the page) but I guess it couldn't go any further
> > >             due to the lack of extra channels in the voxels.
> > >             Everything else is beyond my knowledge. So I guess you're
> > >             right Kim, XSI needs a fluid solver ;-)
> > >
> > >             cheers
> > >
> > >             On 6/13/06, *kim aldis* <kim(at)aldis.org.uk
> > >             <mailto:kim(at)aldis.org.uk>> wrote:
> > >
> > >             Smoke like that, I think is as much a motion issue as a
> > >             shader issue.  I couldn't find a video of that smoke but
> > >             you get this kind of boiling motion where the smoke kind
> > >             of pushes through and folds back on itself. It's very
> > >             distinctive. I thought I could find a better example, but
> > >             check out this link. I don't think you could get that with
> > >             XSI particles.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/Customer/SearchDetails.aspx?searchText=refinery+fire&type=Simple&itemId=2aa3ac71-8c02-4205-a278-fa1617d9616f&page=1
> > >
> > > <http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/Customer/SearchDetails.aspx?searchText=refinery+fire&type=Simple&itemId=2aa3ac71-8c02-4205-a278-fa1617d9616f&page=1>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > >             <mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM> [mailto:
> > >             owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM>]
> > >             *On Behalf Of *Vince Fortin
> > >             *Sent:* 13 June 2006 20:57
> > >             *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >             *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: [OT] dynamite v1.1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             Correct me if I'm wrong Kim but this is more a shader
> > >             issue rather than a simulation thing.
> > >             If XSI had a good volume shader, we could achieve this
> > >             result with both grid-based and particles simulations.
> > >             I've once been told though that it's more difficult to
> > >             implement the "hypervoxel" or "afterburn" /texturing/
> > >             features in MR (because they are isosurface or
> > >             someeeethinnng like that).
> > >
> > >             On 6/13/06, *kim aldis* <kim(at)aldis.org.uk
> > >             <mailto:kim(at)aldis.org.uk>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             > -----Original Message-----
> > >             > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > >             <mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >             [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM
> > >             <mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM>] On
> > >             > Behalf Of Ronald Beirouti
> > >             > Sent: 13 June 2006 18:56
> > >             > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> > >             > Subject: RE: Re: Re: [OT] dynamite v1.1
> > >             >
> > >             >
> > >             > The last four smoke renders (after the head renders) are
> > >             particles
> > >             > rendered with a volumic shader. Particles are simulated
> > >             using a
> > >             > standard particle system, so it's much faster. Other
> > >             advantages are
> > >             > more control over the simulation making achieve a wider
> > >             range of
> > >             > effects including non physically realistic effects. Also, 
> > > the
> > >             > simulation is not bound to a volume. However, although a
> > >             rendered still
> > >             > image looks very nice, the fluid movement is not as fine
> > >             as with grid-
> > >             > based simulations but still looks quite nice when tweaked
> > >             right. This
> > >             > is the solution you find in Lightwave and plug-ins such
> > >             as Binary
> > >             > Alchemy.
> > >             >
> > >             [kim aldis]
> > >             It's worth pointing out here, though, that motion for some
> > >             of those particle
> > >             based simulations you won't get right XSI's particle
> > >             system. In particular,
> > >             check out that one with the black smoke and fiery middle.
> > >             If there's a
> > >             motion of it available you should see a really nice
> > >             boiling kind of motion
> > >             which is very typical of big, explosive type effects.
> > >             There's another nice
> > >             example on Glasswork's site which I think is one of their
> > >             custom particle
> > >             effects, correct me if I'm wrong Alastair. Pete, wasn't it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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