RE: OT: OS/platform advice

Date : Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:03:27 +0100
To : <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "kim aldis" <kim(at)aldis.org.uk>
Subject : RE: OT: OS/platform advice
But reading that review, SFU looks a whole lot better than it did when I
looked at that very early verison.

K.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
> Behalf Of kim aldis
> Sent: 30 August 2006 07:40
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Subject: RE: OT: OS/platform advice
> 
> This is all true, but of course it depends on what you want from your
> Linux.
> For me, on a day to day basis, it's no more than a decent command
> shell, the slew of UNIX tools that come along with it, the ability to
> start some applications just by typing rather than digging around deep
> in a menu, a decent text editor and a decent dev and scripting
> environment. UNIX for me is just that, a decent working environment so
> I don't really need all those extras.
> 
> It also gives me the ability to cd to a UNC path which is quite nice.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
> > Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau
> > Sent: 29 August 2006 19:35
> > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > Subject: RE: OT: OS/platform advice
> >
> > Just for completeness, there is a pretty big difference between
> cygwin
> > and now free SFU (MS Services for unix).
> >
> > SFU runs directly off the kernel of NT, and it's a true certified
> > posix unix NT kernel sub-system, which means that it implements all
> > the security features, supports rooted file system (i.e. no drive
> > letters), symbolic links on NTFS, signals, threads and process
> > functions (like
> > fork()) nativly, while this is all emulated in cygwin with the
> Windows
> > API, which it uses does not work the same way as unix - the best
> known
> > example is fork() being faked with threads.
> >
> > Also, cygwin implements its emulation with a global shared memory
> > system that means that if one cygwin app crashes, they all do, which
> > can't happen in SFU.  I'm guessing that since cygwin is built on
> > Windows API, there must be cases where it's easier to use with other
> > win32 applications, however, which might be more important to XSI
> > users.
> >
> > here's a review of SFU 3.5
> > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5751
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: kim aldis
> > >
> > > I tried that when MS first bought it. A while ago and I can't
> > remember
> > > the details but I do remember thinking oh my god, they still don't
> > get
> > > it.
> > >
> > > The advantages to installing this over Cygwin seems to be only the
> > > remote services - which MS, damn their eyes, should have put into
> > > windows in the first place. I've been running Cygwin on Windows for
> > at
> > > least 8 or 9 years.
> > > Works just fine and there are perfectly adequate remote services
> > > around that work way better than this stuff. I believe one of them
> > was
> > > written by Halfy, even.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Of Luc-Eric Rousseau
> > > > Sent: 29 August 2006 16:21
> > > > To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> > > > Subject: RE: OT: OS/platform advice
> > > >
> > > > why do you bother at all running linux..  if you miss the
> > > linux command
> > > > line shell and the various tools, that's all available for free
> > > > for windows. You can install an entier unix subsystem for free
> > > > (not an emulation running on Win32 API like Cygwin) directly from
> > microsoft.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/interopmigration/unix/sfu/default.msp
> > > x
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