Re: face robot seems a bit outdone

Date : Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:16:23 +0100
To : <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
From : "adrian" <adrian.wyer(at)fluid-pictures.com>
Subject : Re: face robot seems a bit outdone
i believe it's a comped face, on cgi body
 
done by the guys round at the mill!
 
kudos to them!
 
a

Adrian Wyer
Fluid Pictures
33 Glasshouse Street
London
W1B 5DG
----- Original Message -----
From: Kim Aldis
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: face robot seems a bit outdone

I was looking at it and thinking if it was me I?d use human actors and lay CG robot parts into it. Much easier, don?t you think?

 

From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
Sent: 18 October 2006 14:25
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: face robot seems a bit outdone

 

looks a bit like the Bjork video


Marc-Andre Carbonneau wrote:

This is all 3D?
The lips "sticking" when he pronounces words in the close ups shot is making me doubt its 3D...
 
Perhaps it's make-up and compositing magic just like they did in the movie A.I.
 
I think it looks great! Best human facial animation since Gollum and Davey Jones.(well since they are not humans I guess we can discard them...)
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Rob Wuijster
Sent: October 18, 2006 6:53 AM
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: face robot seems a bit outdone
 
Have a look at this -face- robot  ;-) 
 
http://insidecg.com/newscomclick.php?id=1830 (direct link to video)
 
Really nice work, anyone knows who did this one??
 
 
Regards,
 
*Rob Wuijster
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Condor Digital
www.condor.tv <http://www.condor.tv>
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Stefan Andersson wrote:
  
well, I still havent seen any clips that shows the same quality as it
was shown here.
 
/stefan
 
 
On 10/18/06, Raffaele Fragapane <jaco(at)thejaco.com> wrote:
    
That's so 4 months ago Adrian.
Now we're busy talking about another rigged demo man. Move with the
times or don't move at all!
 
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adrian wrote:
 
      
so show us a rigged demo, and get everyone talking about facerobot?
 
Adrian Wyer
Fluid Pictures
33 Glasshouse Street
London
W1B 5DG
 
    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Halfdan Ingvarsson <mailto:hingvars(at)Softimage.COM>
    *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:50 PM
    *Subject:* RE: face robot seems a bit outdone
 
    As the man said: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
    indistinguishable from a rigged demo" :-)
 
    - ½
 
    
        
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    *From:* owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM>
    [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron
    *Sent:* 17-Oct-06 12:41
    *To:* XSI(at)Softimage.COM <mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
    *Subject:* Re: face robot seems a bit outdone
 
    I wonder if they know of each other, since they are both in the LA
    area.
 
    quick observation though, the animators behind the box where
    playing with the rigs. so a traditional rig of sorts is there to
    clean up the capture, at which point "jiggle" could be added...
 
    steven
 
    On 10/17/06, *Sam Cuttriss* <sam(at)janimation.com
    <mailto:sam(at)janimation.com>> wrote:
 
    surely face robot would work in conjunction with that capturing
    system? (assuming a bottomless budget)
    I doubt they have it set up to efficiently manipulate captured
    animation, which is an area face robot distinguishes itself?
 
    one thing that was interesting was it appeared to capture the
    jiggle of that guys lips when he shook quickly.
    very nice indeed.
 
    _sam
 
    */SAM CUTTRISS/*/
    /*/3D AFICIONADO/*
 
 
 
 
 
    Greg Smith wrote:
 
wonder if there using some sort of Optical Flow algorithm to capture 
        
all
      
of the subtleties of the actor's performance. This reminds me of
 
Disney's Gemini Man project. From what I recall at a Siggy a few years
 
 
 
back. They used optical flow to capture the performance of actors, 
        
and I
      
remember them stating that it worked with better fidelity with a face
 
unobscured by markers. I'm definitely interested in hearing more about
 
 
 
this.
 
 
 
my 2 cents,
 
Greg
 
 
 
On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 11:20 +0100, adrian wrote:
 
 
 
        
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/movies/15waxm.html?
 
_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
 
 
 
 
 
check out the vid
 
 
 
Adrian Wyer
 
Fluid Pictures
 
33 Glasshouse Street
 
London
 
W1B 5DG
 
 
 
          
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