Re: OT: Talking-animal movies are ruining my life

["adrian" <adrian.wyer(at)fluid-pictures.com>]

the movie business is completely risk averse, which is why you have to hunt for good independent movies....

 

TV is a different creature, with more and more channels to fill, and with a huge amount of advertising revenue to be garnered

TV companies can afford to take more risks with their content, and the nature of TV means it can be more 'niche'

 

can you imagine a cinema in the mid-west showing subtitled euro films?

 

on TV this happens, the margins are smaller, but there is more room to manoeuvre, more margins

 

as Kim said, story telling by committee in Hollywood should be taken out and shot, like the lame horse it is

 

(had to get at least one animal pun in there)

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kim Aldis

To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM

Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:17 AM

Subject: RE: OT: Talking-animal movies are ruining my life

Vast sums of money and huge egos in the movie industry lead to design-by-committee environments. I think they just get discussed to death and watered down by executives scared they?ll be out of a job.

 

TV does have it?s casualties to, although it?s not as bad as the movies. Arrested Development for one. What a waste.

 

 

From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of guillaume laforge
Sent: 06 November 2006 08:31
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: Re: OT: Talking-animal movies are ruining my life

 

Salut Guy :-)

>But they are not out of ideas when it comes to TV Series.

Completely agree !

>Its understandable somehow, from a scripter point of view, as in a TV
>Serie you have plenty of time to develop plots, characters, etc..

I'm not sure time is the point. It looks like competition in movie industry is to copy the last success to avoid risks.
In TV series, some really different ideas found good success and now it looks like public want more and more original crazy series ! 
Unfortunately it doesn't happen the same with movies...

But speaking of animated films, they are just far better for the moment than 3D series .
3D animated series are just for children (except maybe the excellent "Tripping the Rift").

1/2

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Guillaume Laforge
freelance TD | cg Artist
my blog ! http://vol2blog.blogspot.com/

On 11/5/06, Guy Rabiller < guy(at)alamaison.fr> wrote:

But they are not out of ideas when it comes to TV Series.

It seems to me that a lot of talented people have joined the tv series
world as the quality ( and quantity ) in there is quite amazing these days.

Its understandable somehow, from a scripter point of view, as in a TV
Serie you have plenty of time to develop plots, characters, etc..

Could it be one of the reasons ?

--
guy rabiller | 3d technical director (at) LaMaison



Eric Lampi a écrit :
> Come on Kim, I've seen a lot of those, most of them are really good movies.
>
> I am not talking about GOOD movies.  That's sort of the point.  I am making an over-generalization that Hollywood is out of ideas, so they simply copy each other - Dante's Peak and that other Volcano movie, Deep Impact and Armageddon...for example, or make whatever crap they think they can get the most mouth-breathers into the theatre.
>
> You're simply not thinking hard enough...
>
> Need for Speed?  You Got Served?  Dukes of Hazzard?  Honey?  Gigli? BATTLEFIELD EARTH!!!  Yeah a book, I know, but still... BLEH!
>
> I assume you have good taste and you simply filter out all of the non-sense movie ads that flash on the TV.
>
> I'll never forget when I saw Contact, the guy behind me bitching because for some reason he thought it would be like Men In Black or Independance Day.  Not enough explosions and zombies or something.
>
> E
>
>
> Freelance 3-D Animator, F/X Artist
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kim Aldis < XSI(at)kim-aldis.co.uk>
> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 11:57:57 AM
> Subject: RE: OT: Talking-animal movies are ruining my life
>
>
> Winnie the Pooh, The Jungle Book, Lord of the Rings, Snow White - in fact
> pretty much everything Disney ever did by way of features he ripped from
> books and completely ruined - The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, all the
> Bond books, Get Carter, Bridget Jones's Diary, Chocolat, Forrest Gump,
> Princess Diaries, The First Wives Club, The Commitments, The Firm, Get
> Shorty, Crash, Fight Club, Ordinary People, Shawshank Redemption (Different
> Seasons, I think), The Bonfire of the Vanities, A Series of Unfortunate
> Events (Lemony Snicket), James and the Giant Peach, Mary Poppins, War of the
> Worlds, Harry Potter (all of them now, I think), Shrek, Jaws, Psycho, The
> Exorcist, 2001 A Space Odyssey, The Green Mile, The Silence of the Lambs,
> Deliverance, Double Indemnity, The Manchurian Candidate, The Godfather, A
> Beautiful Mind, The Perfect Storm, Captain Corelli's Mandolin, Cold
> Mountain, Clockwork Orange, Blade Runner (Do Androids Dream of Electric
> Sheep), Contact, Hitchiker's Guide, Dune, I Robot, Jurassic Park, Sphere,
> The Time Machine, Romeo and Juliet, Black Hawk Down, The Pianist, Jarhead,
> Band of Brothers, Apocalypse Now, The Dirty Dozen ........ yadda, yadda. You
> could fill pages.
>
> In fact, I think you'd be hard pushed to find a movie that isn't from a
> book.
>
> A movie idea taken from a book doesn't class as an original idea.
>
>
> (Sorry Eric, ;-) )
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
>> Behalf Of Eric Lampi
>> Sent: 04 November 2006 16:16
>> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>> Subject: Re: OT: Talking-animal movies are ruining my life
>>
>>
>> One day, maybe someone in Hollywood will discover a "library" where
>> they have these things called "books".  It's a treasure trove of
>> original ideas and stories.
>>
>
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