Re: Deadline render management - was RE: XSI 6 Foundation in 64bit?

Date : Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:23:44 -0500
To : XSI(at)Softimage.COM
From : Kris Rivel <kris(at)krisrivel.com>
Subject : Re: Deadline render management - was RE: XSI 6 Foundation in 64bit?
Rush is awful IMO.  I'm strictly speaking on behalf of the small to mid-sized commercial house however.  I was recently working somewhere that uses Rush to manage their jobs and its much too complicated and cryptic.....totally anti-artist.  Holger's Royal Render blows it out of the water as far as ease of setup, use, management, UI, etc.  I'm sure with the proper resources and time, you could write a great interface and submitter for Rush for XSI which the larger shops might opt for but for anyone looking to get flexible, easy render management out of a box....Rush doesn't cut it.

Kris

Steven Caron wrote:
i have heard rush isnt bad...

i just figure i would share this info to make sure Lee evaluates Deadline appropriately

steven

On 11/17/06, Stefan Andersson <sanders3d(at)gmail.com> wrote:
*cough* rush *cough*

seriously, really easy to setup and you can "grow" as much as you would like with it.

/stefan




On 11/17/06, Steven Caron <carons(at)gmail.com> wrote:
I dont want to talk bad about deadline on the setup front cause i haven't had to set it up.. but i am using it now and my god it is slow. it takes for ever to refresh, startup, modify jobs, etc

on the XSI side when you submit it communicates with deadline and sometimes doesn't get back to me with a successful submit and my XSI will have interaction back but with OGL burn-in from the submit and it never recovers i always have to restart and when this happens it never submits more than one of my passes. (man when i rant i make run-on sentences) so i am always having to restart and submit again. sometimes i get interaction back and 3-5 mins later i get a msgbox pop up saying it submitted, which is a annoying...

i dont know what is to blame, but if your looking for off the shelf software. holger's royalrender, kim's tiny render farm are both solutions. one that i have also heard is interesting is pipelinefx's qube. i have never used it but a friend was telling me about "node based gui to build jobs and/or tasks"

anyways really really put deadline though its paces before you commit, i dont want anyone else to have to deal with this

steven

On 11/17/06, Lee_Carus(at)scee.net < Lee_Carus(at)scee.net> wrote:

We're looking at Deadline right now to unify all our batch jobs - still waiting to test the XSI side of things but it handles Max/Brazil and After Effects files well. The XSI side of things looks very easy to set up so it might be worth checking out the trial version?



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Second that and Joes comments too. Satellite rendering is painful at times
and I don't see why setting up a rendermanager like Batchserve should be so
difficult. Being a one man operation I have no network guy to fix things for
me. I need something that is easy to set up and maintain - like Backburner.

Morten Bartholdy
3D & VFX Artist





----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Bachmann" <xsi.dbachmann(at)gmail.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: XSI 6 Foundation in 64bit?


> while we are at it, what about a simple installable, noob safe few clicks
> batchserve (or better) installation?
> i am used to backburner from max, that one is dumb easy to install and
> just works out of the box (so long as they do no updates, hehe)
>
> i am still playing on my advanced to get into it and had only headaches
> setting batchserve up to work with all machines....
> in fact i gave up and rendered on 1 machine only, lucky me that those
> projects where not yet so big until now...
>
> i have a need for more renderpower for my upcoming project, the first one
> after my switch to xsi where i want do everything in xsi.
>
> i am a (very) small studio and like xsi, please make the distributed
> rendering a bit easier for us in future.
> anyway, thumbs up for the usability and thoughts behind XSI!!!
>
> Daniel
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> Joe Laffey wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, phil harbath wrote:
>>
>>> i would like to make an official plea for more render nodes for
>>> essential and advance.
>>
>> My plea:
>>
>> I would like to see the advertsied 12 render CPUs for Advanced be
>> available in Batch as well as satellite. Satellite fails over half the
>> time on any kind of halfway complex scene (hi-poly or hair, etc.), and is
>> not very efficient either. Batch is quite usable.
>>
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