Thanks Peter!
Will try that ASAP.
Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 19:51:29 +0100, peter boeykens <peter_b(at)skynet.be> wrote:
> licensing(at)softimage.com would be your best bet, and put
> support(at)softimage.com in copy.
>
> I totally agree that licensing to a mac adress sucks.
> Its not uncommon to switch workstations every few months.
> You should be able to migrate your software along, by offering FND licensing
> on a dongle.
> At paid price for the dongle if need be.
> Especially so since apparently they do offer the option to clients that have
> a dongle allready.
>
> If anything, bad licensing policies are an incentive to piracy, which is in
> no one's interest.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Helzle" <xsi(at)screendream.de>
> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Foundation Licensing question
>
>
> Well, so far I didn't get any answers from the people I contacted at
> Softimage (well, it's Christmas I guess :) ).
> I never had to deal with something like that so if anybody has a hint on who
> to contact (I tried the Store support and Will Mendez), I am all ears.
>
> Sorry if I annoy some people here. For me it is a very important and
> substantial problem and I guess for some others too (even if they may not
> have realized it yet). Since licensing defines the way you are able to use
> the software, it is very important to me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas Helzle
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 01:20:09 +0100, Tim Leydecker <BauerOink(at)gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> I second the bits about getting into direct contact with Support
>> to see if something can be worked out but I must also say that
>> licensing schemes -especially the explicit details- would often
>> benefit from being made public prior to having things installed.
>>
>> For example, Maya 8 (64bit) runs fine but the dongle drivers
>> didnÂt run at all on XP64 initially, which made it a pain in the arse.
>> I ended up having ordered a piece of plastic worth a â 180,-
>> not suitable for my specific way of "travelling the digital world".
>> Instead, a simple nodelocked (e.g. tied to a MAC adress) license
>> runs fine but obviously has drawbacks in portability (officially).
>>
>> Comparing this with the problem Thomas describes I can see
>> similarities in the user experience, e.g. another day of wasted energy.
>> Therefor I would also welcome the option to replace, re-order,
>> update or by whatever means get an XSI dongle seperately/later.
>>
>> The first thing I did with my XSI 5 dongle was break off the cap...
>> It still works but doesnÂt look too professional (itÂs edu anyway)
>> and wouldnÂt suit an advanced license in terms of looks and price :)
>>
>> While Eriya Ito may find this less important, I find licensing starts
>> to suck the moment a machine dies, a disk crashes or a replacement
>> is required and "all those precious apps" start squeaking "license me".
>>
>> The only areas thatÂs worse I can think of is booking a flight
>> via the internet without having a major brand credit card at hand.
>> I had to book an alternative flight in the end yesterday, the desired
>> one turned out to be unavailable without a credit card. ThatÂs a
>> shame, Lan Chile is said to be a great airline and offers "20kg" for
>> baggage...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> tim
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eriya Ito" <eriya.ito(at)grapecity.com>
>> To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 12:46 AM
>> Subject: RE: Foundation Licensing question
>>
>>
>>> Am I the only one who does not understand what's said here?
>>> I mean, it does not make any sense by 'I feel tricked by Softimage
>>> regarding licensing issues'.
>>> You don't go to the store and decide to buy or not buy a software
>>> because of it's licensing methods.
>>> Softimage (or any other developer company) is not obliged in anyway to
>>> explain or publicize the
>>> 'new' licensing procedures they adapted to their potential customers.
>>> It's what the individuals go and find out. That's why we have this super
>>> community newsgroup for.
>>>
>>> I mean by all this is please, with all due respect, stop ranting over
>>> something that you think
>>> you were 'cheated' but what I think 'tough luck', specially in this
>>> newsgroup.
>>> Would you please contact with Softimage direct since you're not sure
>>> if anybody from Softimage is handling your problem officially.
>>> I have tons of friends who just live with their shocking new licensing
>>> methods
>>> they didn't even dreamt of before buying the software.
>>>
>>> Cheers and a Merry Christmas to all!
>>> Eriya
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf
>>> Of Thomas Helzle
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 7:25 PM
>>> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Foundation Licensing question
>>>
>>> I would really love to get an official word on this:
>>>
>>> Will it be possible to get a dongle for Foundation?
>>>
>>> If not, I feel tricked into buying an update (from Foundation 5 to 6)
>>> without having been able to make a learned decision since this new
>>> licensing scheme wasn't made public in the pre-sale period.
>>>
>>> Hard-node-locked software is unusable for me.
>>> The USB Network Card idea is just as slippery.
>>>
>>> So my only other option would be buying Essentials, which is much more
>>> expensive now.
>>>
>>> Believe it or not - I even thought about going to Essentials and had a
>>> conversation with my local reseller (slash.de) some days before the
>>> release about it, but decided against it in the end since I had already
>>> bought the Foundation update from the Softimage store.
>>>
>>> Honestly this is a big mess.
>>> Playing this the hard way will not make Softimage look any better in my
>>> book.
>>> Customers are not enemies.
>>>
>>> The only people having no problem with all this are the ones who don't
>>> care for buying software anyway.
>>>
>>> This is all upside down IMO.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Thomas Helzle
>>> www.screendream.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 23.12.2006, 21:02 Uhr, schrieb Stephen Blair
>>> <Stephen_Blair(at)Softimage.COM>:
>>>
>>>> I don't know what you mean by "usb network key".
>>>>
>>>> When you activate Foundation it is either tied to a [local] dongle or
>>>> to your Ethernet card. No choices are offered.
>>>>
>>>> That's what I know about it.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On
>>>> Behalf Of phil harbath
>>>> Sent: Sat 23 December 2006 1:30 PM
>>>> To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
>>>> Subject: Re: Foundation Licensing question
>>>>
>>>> i asked several soft people about the usb network key, and i can't
>>>> seem to get an answer. the idea would be when installing you could
>>>> choose from a list of network devices (if it isn't tied to other
>>>> devices is another question). perhaps someone on this list knows that
>>>
>>>> answer to that.
>>>>
>>>> phil
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