Do you use referenced model ?
Did you try Point Oven ?
Guillaume
On 1/19/07, Julien Wieser < <mailto:jwieser(at)cyber-groupe.com>
jwieser(at)cyber-groupe.com> wrote:
Thank you Guillaume
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In fact the guys of the studio already tried to plot curves : same =
results.
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I knew that batch serve was only a way of managing rendering without xsi
interface, but I precised it because the differents is that it send 1 =
frame
to 1 computer instead of 1 frame rendered on several computers =
(distributed
rendering).
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Can we surely say that the shapes are not involved in the issue ?
(distributed rendering and standalone rendering works well)
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What kind of informations does the batch app send to the machines that =
could
disable the shapes on random frames ?
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Thank you
Julien Wieser
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De : owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] De la part =
de
guillaume laforge
Envoy=E9 : vendredi 19 janvier 2007 14:19
=C0 : XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Objet : Re: BatchServe and blend shapes
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Hi Julien,
Batchserve is just an application to start xsi without the user =
interface (
the xsi batch app ). If your frames are rendered, thenit looks like
batchserve did the job. If the shape are not correctly rendered, then it
looks like xsi ( xsi batch ) didn't do its job.=20
I used batchserve in a company with more than 50 rendering machines and =
it
works correctly. In fact it works only if there is a "php specialist" to
debug the free batchserve given with xsi.
Maybe try a plot shape or a point oven before sending to the rendering ? =
1/2
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Guillaume Laforge
freelance TD | cg Artist
my blog ! http://vol2blog.blogspot.com/
On 1/19/07, Julien Wieser <jwieser(at)cyber-groupe.com> wrote:
Hi everybody ,=20
I'm new here so lets first introduce myself,
I'm Julien from Paris (France), Using XSI for 4 or 5 years now. I'm not
specialized in one part of 3D.=20
I'm doing as well rendering than modeling rigging props or characters.
Working on a 52x7 minutes full 3D animation serie called OzieBoo.
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My first question here will be about Batchserve rendering and Blend =
Shapes.
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I've done a character rig with facial blend shapes using that kinds of
expression to blend the shapes :
=AB cond( PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posy > 0,
PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posy, 0 ) * cond(
PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posx > 0, 1, 1 +
PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posx / 2 ) =BB
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The problem is that the studio that is using my characters has problem =
with
facial shapes at rendering. Random rendered frames have the neutral =
facial
shape instead of the right shapes keyed with the controls. So when =
playing
the animation the facial expressions =AB jitters =BB or =AB pops =BB =
(not sure of
translation)
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They're using BatchServe with about 10 rendering machine.=20
It seems that bad frames are not always rendered by the same computer.=20
5 characters have the same rig (exactly the same) and on the bad frames =
all
goes to neutral shape so it didn't depend of the shape used or the value
keyed.
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When testing the same scenes rendered on one computer or with rayhost =
there
are no problems.
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Does someone have an idea of where the problem could come from ?
Is batchserve reliable for big productions ?
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Thanks very much for yours answers.
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Julien Wieser
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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pretty sure too
;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I share the same idea in my case =
fcurves
drive controls and the x and y values of these controls are taken in
expressions to blend the shapes, so once fcurve is set no need of cache =
or what
else could interfere…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t think the studio is =
using
referenced models, but if they are what would be the point to =
check ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t know Point Oven, =
i’ll
inform me about that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Julien =
Wieser<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>De la part de</span></b> guillaume =
laforge<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Envoy=E9 :</span></b> vendredi =
19 janvier
2007 14:47<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=C0 :</span></b> =
XSI(at)Softimage.COM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Objet :</span></b> Re: =
BatchServe and
blend shapes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>>I knew that batch serve was only a way of managing
rendering without xsi interface, but I precised it because the =
differents is
that it send 1 frame to 1 computer >instead of 1 frame rendered on =
several
computers (distributed rendering).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>> Can we surely say that the shapes are not =
involved in
the issue ? (distributed rendering and standalone rendering works =
well)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I was pretty =
sure you
knew how batch server work. It was just to clarify the point as it is =
difficult
to correctly feel something via a mailing list ;-)<br>
<br>
