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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dgmailquote><font size=3D3 =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On 1/19/07, <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Julien
Wieser</span></b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jwieser(at)cyber-groupe.com">
jwieser(at)cyber-groupe.com</a>&gt; =
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<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Thank you Guillaume</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>In fact the guys of the studio already tried to plot
curves&nbsp;: same results.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I knew that batch serve was only a way of managing =
rendering
without xsi interface, but I precised it because the differents is that =
it send
1 frame to 1 computer instead of 1 frame rendered on several computers
(distributed rendering).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Can we surely say that the shapes are not involved in =
the
issue&nbsp;? (distributed rendering and standalone rendering works =
well)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>What kind of informations does the batch app send to =
the
machines that could disable the shapes on random =
frames&nbsp;?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Thank you</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Julien Wieser</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-weight:bold'>De&nbsp;:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>De la part de</span></b> guillaume =
laforge<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Envoy=E9&nbsp;:</span></b> vendredi =
19 janvier
2007 14:19<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=C0&nbsp;:</span></b> <a
href=3D"mailto:XSI(at)Softimage.COM" =
target=3D"_blank">XSI(at)Softimage.COM</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Objet&nbsp;:</span></b> Re: =
BatchServe and
blend shapes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Julien,<br>
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</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Batchserve is just an application to start xsi without the user
interface ( the xsi batch app ). If your&nbsp; frames are rendered, =
thenit
looks like batchserve did the job. If the shape are not correctly =
rendered,
then it looks like xsi ( xsi batch ) didn't do its job. <br>
<br>
I used batchserve in a company with more than 50 rendering machines and =
it
works correctly. In fact it works only if there is a &quot;php =
specialist&quot;
to debug the free batchserve given with xsi.<br>
<br>
Maybe try a plot shape or a point oven before sending to the rendering ? =
<br>
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1/2<br>
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</span></font><br clear=3Dall>
-- <br>
Guillaume Laforge<br>
freelance TD | cg Artist<br>
my blog ! <a href=3D"http://vol2blog.blogspot.com/"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://vol2blog.blogspot.com/</a><br>
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<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On
1/19/07, <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Julien Wieser</span></b> =
&lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:jwieser(at)cyber-groupe.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jwieser(at)cyber-groupe.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi </span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>everybody</span></font><font=

size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> , =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I'm
new here so lets first introduce myself,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I'm
Julien from Paris (France), Using XSI for 4 or 5 years now. I'm not =
specialized
in one part of 3D. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I'm
doing as well rendering than modeling rigging props or =
characters.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Working
on a 52x7 minutes full 3D animation serie called =
OzieBoo.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----</span></font><o:p></o:p=
></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My
first question here will be about Batchserve rendering and Blend =
Shapes.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I've
done a </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>character</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US> =
</span><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>rig with facial
blend shapes using that kinds of expression to blend the =
shapes&nbsp;:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>=AB&nbsp;cond(
PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posy &gt; 0, =
PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posy, 0 )
* cond( PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posx &gt; 0, 1, 1 +
PBlue.ctrl_mouth.kine.local.posx / 2 =
)&nbsp;=BB</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The
problem is that the studio that is using my characters has problem with =
facial
shapes at rendering. Random rendered frames have the neutral facial =
shape
instead of the right shapes keyed with the controls. So when playing the
animation the facial expressions =AB&nbsp;jitters&nbsp;=BB or =
=AB&nbsp;pops&nbsp;=BB
(not sure of translation)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>They're
using BatchServe with about 10 rendering machine. =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It
seems that bad frames are not always rendered by the same computer. =
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>5
characters have the same rig (exactly the same) and on the bad frames =
all goes
to neutral shape so it didn't depend of the shape used or the value =
keyed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When
testing the same scenes rendered on one computer or with rayhost there =
are no
problems.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Does
someone have an idea of </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>where </span></font><font =
size=3D2
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>the =
problem could
come from&nbsp;?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is
batchserve reliable for big =
productions&nbsp;?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks
very much for yours answers.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o=
:p></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Julien
Wieser</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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