I am completely
agreement Jordi.
Anyone who is not
scared about DRM
and what Micro$oft is trying to do doesn’t understand it or it’s
implications.
One can only pray that
this hurts Microsoft so badly that they rethink this entire approach. Like
licensing, all DRM will only end up doing is hurting those who are honest.
AD
From:
owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of jordibares
Sent: January 30, 2007 8:05 AM
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>;
Kim Aldis
Subject: Re: Vista
and XSI?
Personally I feel very strongly
about the DRM and “trusted” computing and have to say it is enough
as a concept to scare the sh$t out of me.
Anyone planning to install Vista should have a proper read to those many
documents found about DRM and what Micro$oft is trying to do with the help of
the MPAA, RIAA and the like.
jb
On 30/1/07 12:28, "Kim Aldis" <XSI(at)kim-aldis.co.uk> wrote:
Equally,
I shoved it onto a Dell laptop I wasn’t using about 6 months or so ago,
RC1 I think it was. It installed fast and easy, ran with no trouble at all. I
used it as a second machine for a couple of weeks without any real problems
other than XSI seemed not to recognize any mouse clicks on the OK button, but
then that was before there’d really been any mention of xsi on Vista. All
the drivers seemed to work, which was surprising. Performance was about the
same as it was under XP, memory footprint I didn’t look at too closely
but I was shoving some usually big scenes through it and it never complained.
In the end the laptop got sold otherwise I’d have probably left it on and
continued to use it quite happily. It was fine, a bit annoying with all the
dumb new security stuff asking you stupid questions every time it wants to make
a move, but it did what it said on the tin and made a pleasant enough change of
view.
I doubt I’ll be putting it on anything else of mine any time soon.
I’m not sure of the point of splashing out that much money on
something that does nothing all that differently to what I already have.
It’s also worth noting that every release of anything for the past ten
years has been problematic to some degree for enough people to make it a probably
unwise move for a few months yet. How problematic depending on your kit, your
experience and probably your frame of mind at the time but for what it gives
you, is it really worth the risk?
From: owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM] On Behalf Of Wessam Bahnassi
Sent: 30 January 2007 15:03
To: XSI(at)Softimage.COM
Subject: RE: Vista and XSI?
I installed Vista Ultimate x64 on my
home machine and I had to remove it right away afterwards. My machine is not
super (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual 3800+, with Geforce6600) but still... XSI gave me
a warning during installation that I have no OpenGL driver, and later, I was
lucky and managed to run it only once, and the viewports performance was
horrible. After that I failed to run it again thanks to SPM (I don’t know
how it ran the first time).
On another note, the OpenGL driver in 3dsMax was giving a lot of garbage
also… This is using the latest public nvidia drivers that I downloaded
three days ago…
I’m not saying it’s a bad OS, but I prefer to give it sometime
instead of being on the front line of people suffering compatibility issues
that would go with time.
Wessam Bahnassi
Microsoft DirectX MVP,
Programmer
Electronic Arts
--
'Talk is cheap because supply exceeds
demand'
From:
owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM [mailto:owner-xsi(at)Softimage.COM]
On Behalf Of jordibares
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007
3:43 AM
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>;
Marco Spasiano
Subject: Re: Vista and XSI?
Man, that is funny.
jb
On 30/1/07 11:21, "Marco Spasiano" <spasiano(at)playstos.com>
wrote:
Hi, take a look to that:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/microsoft-vista-faster-on-a-mac-pro-than-apples-own-os-x-232402.php
Marco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Andersson" <sanders3d(at)gmail.com>
To: <XSI(at)Softimage.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: Vista and XSI?
>I can only agree :) And running bootcamp on a macbook pro works great
> if you need windows for some applications (such as xsi). Or.... you
> can install Linux, some distros actually supports the MacBook Pro now.
> And then you can have both OSX and Linux.
>
> Windows.... "archive to bin"
>
> /stefan
>
>
> On 1/30/07, jordibares <jordibares(at)the-mill.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you are planning to use a windows based box MAKE SURE IS NOT
VISTA.
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/07/technology/Reality_check_Vista.biz2/index.htm?cnn=yes
>>
>>
>> The implications are huge in terms of drivers/support for old
hardware,
>> memory requirements for the OS, and IMO one of the worsts things we
are
>> facing nowadays, Digital Restriction Manager.
>>
>> To learn more
>>
>> http://polishlinux.org/gnu/drm-vista-and-your-rights/
>>
>>
>> My suggestion for a laptop? Buy a Mac with Bootcamp so you can
run OS X
>> and
>> Windows XP, the performance is impressive and there are some
benchmarks
>> between Macs and Dells running XSI, Maya, Photoshop and seems they are
>> faster than comparable models.
>>
>> Just make sure is NOT VISTA.
>>
>> jb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29/1/07 19:35, "Byron Nash"
<byronnash(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm in the market for a laptop(not to drudge up the old
"laptops"
>> thread).
>> As of today, everything Dell sells will come with MS Vista. Does
anyone
>> know
>> if XSI runs (well) on it? Also, is Vista 64bit? therefore allowing one
to
>> run XSI 64bit?
>>
>> Another question: I looked at the recommended hardware list for
XSI
>> mobile
>> workstations. It's pretty small. I also noticed that a lot of you are
>> running lappys with graphics cards not on the list. I'm looking into
>> Dell's
>> mostly, so Inspirons, M90/65 and XPS are on the research list. As long
as
>> I
>> upgrade from the built in graphics controller to GeForce, Quadro, or
>> Radeon
>> I should be able to run XSI, correct??
>>
>>
>
>
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